[{"author": "Tobia Castaldi", "text": "<p>test</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:07:01Z"}, {"author": "Paolo Saviano", "text": "<p>ack</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:07:16Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "<p>Thanks to Jack for taking notes!</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:08:57Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "<p>meetecho: Our monitor is saying it's about to shutdown due to lack of activity. How do we stop it?</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:22:33Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "<p>Ben: do you mean the confidence monitor?</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:23:08Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "<p>The one on the floor</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:23:45Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "<p>I'll notify the AV team</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:23:57Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "<p>thanks, wasn't sure if the meetecho laptop was running it or something else</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:24:24Z"}, {"author": "Russ Housley", "text": "<p>The monitor in this room says that \"There was no operation performed for a long time. Shutdown?\"  We do not know how to tell the monitor not to shutdown...</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:25:38Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "<p>and it's dead now</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:26:52Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "<p>I've pinged the AV team, they should be on their way soon</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:27:32Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "<p>thanks</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:27:41Z"}, {"author": "Russ Housley", "text": "<p>Fixed.  Thanks.</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:28:52Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "<p>Yay, it's back!</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:28:52Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "<p>all these fancy telco features (diversion and whatnot) were clearly a mistake</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:30:33Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "<p>/me starts drafting SIPbis charter</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:30:49Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "<p>It's not material to Jon's point--but some carriers do STIR at the edge and other in the core. But they do mostly do it by API vs SIP routing</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:31:37Z"}, {"author": "Jack Rickard", "text": "<p>I can't hear any of that.</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:42:49Z"}, {"author": "Jack Rickard", "text": "<p>(People not at mics)</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:43:02Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "<p>JDR said (not at mic) that this isn't going to work for [banks?] TFA. They will want other identity checks. [Or something to that effect]</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:44:06Z"}, {"author": "Jack Rickard", "text": "<p>I'd appreciate it if someone could fix Chris' comment at the mic in the minutes as I didn't really hear it.</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:53:00Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "<p>Fluffy said (not at mic): From the bottom of my list I will get right on that</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:53:48Z"}, {"author": "Jack Rickard", "text": "<p>Names at mic please!</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T13:55:04Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "<p>wow, i seem to recall having this same conversation the last time the IETF was in London</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T14:09:11Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "<p>This is Russ speaking</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T14:13:17Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "<p>and me</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T14:14:08Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "<p>i would note that in addition to the RTT, there's a privacy cost to OCSP.  and you get that benefit from stapling even if you have the AS do the fetch at call time</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T14:15:35Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "<p>You could presumably also do it hybrid - pre-fetch staples for those numbers that you think are likely to be making calls.</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T14:16:40Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "<p>yep</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T14:16:53Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "<p>NO COLLUSION</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T14:18:54Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "<p>Good point Jack</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T14:24:43Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "<p>Not super sympathetic to the AS privacy concerns, since a privacy-conscious AS can always just use more granular certs</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T14:25:35Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "<p>that's chris</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T14:26:01Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "<p>Chairs: I missed the first few minutes of doc status and whatnot; are you waiting on anything from me?  I think I cleared my backlog.</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T14:29:42Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "<p>@Murray: I don't think so. 3 drafts on 12/1 telechat, right?</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T14:30:28Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "<p>Yes, though I'm surprised they got on that one since it was mostly full already.  There's a slim chance they'll get kicked out by one, but that's still December.</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T14:31:03Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "<p>Understood--I don't think it is critical which one. I expect the sec ADs might need to spend some time on RCD</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T14:31:46Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "<p>Good enough for me.</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T14:31:55Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "<p>But the AS privacy properties are better with short-lived certs!  As Jack pointed out</p>", "time": "2022-11-08T14:32:03Z"}]