[{"author": "Tobia Castaldi", "text": "

test

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:07:01Z"}, {"author": "Paolo Saviano", "text": "

ack

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:07:16Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "

Thanks to Jack for taking notes!

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:08:57Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "

meetecho: Our monitor is saying it's about to shutdown due to lack of activity. How do we stop it?

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:22:33Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "

Ben: do you mean the confidence monitor?

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:23:08Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "

The one on the floor

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:23:45Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "

I'll notify the AV team

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:23:57Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "

thanks, wasn't sure if the meetecho laptop was running it or something else

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:24:24Z"}, {"author": "Russ Housley", "text": "

The monitor in this room says that \"There was no operation performed for a long time. Shutdown?\" We do not know how to tell the monitor not to shutdown...

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:25:38Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "

and it's dead now

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:26:52Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "

I've pinged the AV team, they should be on their way soon

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:27:32Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "

thanks

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:27:41Z"}, {"author": "Russ Housley", "text": "

Fixed. Thanks.

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:28:52Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "

Yay, it's back!

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:28:52Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

all these fancy telco features (diversion and whatnot) were clearly a mistake

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:30:33Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

/me starts drafting SIPbis charter

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:30:49Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "

It's not material to Jon's point--but some carriers do STIR at the edge and other in the core. But they do mostly do it by API vs SIP routing

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:31:37Z"}, {"author": "Jack Rickard", "text": "

I can't hear any of that.

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:42:49Z"}, {"author": "Jack Rickard", "text": "

(People not at mics)

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:43:02Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "

JDR said (not at mic) that this isn't going to work for [banks?] TFA. They will want other identity checks. [Or something to that effect]

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:44:06Z"}, {"author": "Jack Rickard", "text": "

I'd appreciate it if someone could fix Chris' comment at the mic in the minutes as I didn't really hear it.

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:53:00Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "

Fluffy said (not at mic): From the bottom of my list I will get right on that

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:53:48Z"}, {"author": "Jack Rickard", "text": "

Names at mic please!

", "time": "2022-11-08T13:55:04Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

wow, i seem to recall having this same conversation the last time the IETF was in London

", "time": "2022-11-08T14:09:11Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "

This is Russ speaking

", "time": "2022-11-08T14:13:17Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

and me

", "time": "2022-11-08T14:14:08Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

i would note that in addition to the RTT, there's a privacy cost to OCSP. and you get that benefit from stapling even if you have the AS do the fetch at call time

", "time": "2022-11-08T14:15:35Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "

You could presumably also do it hybrid - pre-fetch staples for those numbers that you think are likely to be making calls.

", "time": "2022-11-08T14:16:40Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

yep

", "time": "2022-11-08T14:16:53Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

NO COLLUSION

", "time": "2022-11-08T14:18:54Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

Good point Jack

", "time": "2022-11-08T14:24:43Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

Not super sympathetic to the AS privacy concerns, since a privacy-conscious AS can always just use more granular certs

", "time": "2022-11-08T14:25:35Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "

that's chris

", "time": "2022-11-08T14:26:01Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "

Chairs: I missed the first few minutes of doc status and whatnot; are you waiting on anything from me? I think I cleared my backlog.

", "time": "2022-11-08T14:29:42Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "

@Murray: I don't think so. 3 drafts on 12/1 telechat, right?

", "time": "2022-11-08T14:30:28Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "

Yes, though I'm surprised they got on that one since it was mostly full already. There's a slim chance they'll get kicked out by one, but that's still December.

", "time": "2022-11-08T14:31:03Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "

Understood--I don't think it is critical which one. I expect the sec ADs might need to spend some time on RCD

", "time": "2022-11-08T14:31:46Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "

Good enough for me.

", "time": "2022-11-08T14:31:55Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

But the AS privacy properties are better with short-lived certs! As Jack pointed out

", "time": "2022-11-08T14:32:03Z"}]