# RATS Agenda Monday November 7th - Session I   {#rats-agenda-monday-november-7th---session-i}

Room: Richmond 3

Time zone: GMT, 2 hrs

Rakesh is primary note taker  
MCR: will be backup note taker

**15:30 - 15:35 Agenda Bash & Logistics**  
 (5 min) WG Chairs - Nancy Cam-Winget, Kathleen Moriarty, Ned Smith

**15:35 - 16:05 EAT Update and Blockers**  
 (30 min) Laurence Lundblade - (draft-ietf-rats-eat)

Henk: usig the word "attestations", which we should never do.  
 "A unified endorsement design" <- no sense to the reader for me.

**16:05 - 16:20 AR4SI**  
 (15 min) Thomas Fossati, Eric Voit - (draft-ietf-rats-ar4si)

**16:20 - 16:25 EAT Media Types**  
 (5 min) Thomas Fossati - (draft-ietf-rats-eat-media-type)

**16:25 - 16:35 Secure Routing**  
 (10 min) Meiling Chen - (draft-chen-secure-routing-requirements,
draft-chen-atomized-security-functions)

**16:35 - 16:40 Attestation in TLS**  
 (5 min) Hannes Tschofenig, Thomas Fossati -
(draft-fossati-tls-attestation)

**16:40 - 16:45 EAT-based Key Attestation**  
 (5 min) Hannes Tschofenig - (draft-bft-rats-kat)

**16:45 - 16:50 RATS Conceptual Message Wrapper**  
 (5 min) Hannes Tschofenig - (draft-ftbs-rats-msg-wrap)

**16:50 - 17:30 Open Mic**  
 (40 min)

**RATS WG IETF 115 @ London**

**Timezone: UTC (+0)**

**15:30 - 15:38 (Agenda bash & Logistics)**

UCCS draft addition request by Nancy Cam-Winget (NC)

**15:39 - 16:33**  
**EAP Update by Laurence Lundblade (LL)**

RATS Chairs Spreadsheet issue #8: SW Name claim

*   No concerns on the point about issue resolution in draft-14. Issue
    is believed to be resolved.

RATS Chairs Spreadsheet #9: security level claim

*   Removed from draft-14 and issues raised on the list are mute.

RATS Chairs Spreadsheet #10: clarifications for DLOAs claim

*   No comments or questions were raised at the mic. Issue is assumed to
    be resolved?

RATS Chairs Spreadsheet #11: SPDX and CycloneDX requested

*   SPDX and CycloneDX Claims were added in draft-14 to addressed the
    request. Issue is presumed to be resolved.

RATS Chairs Spreadsheet #12: Section 9.2 not useful for IANA

*   Addressed in draft-14. Issue is presumed to be resolved.

RATS Chairs Spreadsheet #13: Minor issues and nits (with the
introduction)

*   Introducion was reworked in draft-17. Issue is presumed to be
    resolved.

RATS Chairs Spreadsheet #14, #15: Comment block from Hannes, Michael

*   Hannes & Michael reviewed draft-17 which attempted to address
    multiple items. Issues are presumed to be resolved.

RATS Chairs Spreadsheet #16: Extensibility of message type and CDDL
sockets

*   Thomas Fossati confirmed he is fine with the changes.

Spreadsheet #17: Security level

*   Removed in draft-15 making this issue mute.

Spreadsheet #18: Endorsements

*   Needs further clarification on what the issue is. No response in 5
    months.
*   \[HB\] Henk clarified there is a confusion on what exactly
    attestation would mean in the context of this draft. Messages vs.
    activity intent needs clarification.
*   \[LL\] Endorsements definition is clear.
*   \[LL\] Intended use claim and use of word attestations needs to be
    clear.
*   \[chairs\] The chairs are uncertain if this issue is resolved.

GitHub @https://github.com/ietf-rats-wg/eat Issue#297

*   Changes made since draft-14 (current draft is 17). Awaiting further
    comments from WG members.

Secure Boot Definition (GitHub PR #287)  
\[Dave Thaler\] Secure boot need not always be controlled by OEM.
Enterprises might have the need to control it. Should it be renamed to
OEM Secure boot or something similar to clarify?  
\[Thomas Fossati\] What does it mean by saying one has a control of
secure boot?  
\[LL\] Would it help to rename it as OEM authorized secure boot?  
General consensus appears to be that renaming it to "OEM authorized
secure boot" will resolve the issue.

Expert Review for EAT Claims (GitHub PR#296)

*   chairs called time to allow other presenters time to present.
*   there was discussion about holding an interim meeting to finalize
    EAT issues.

\*\* 16:34 - 16:49\*\*  
**An EAT Profile for AR4SI**  
Need help on soliciting feedback.  
\[NC\] One option is a side-meeting.  
\[Dave Thaler\] Recommendation on EAT profile definition requested.

\*\* 16:50 - 16:55\*\*  
**EAT Media Types**  
Open Issue#12 - Early Allocation  
\[NC\] Need to check with other chairs.  
\[Roman\] Needs to be put on mailing list for thorough review.

**16:56 - 17:05**  
**Secure Routing**  
Meiling Chen \[MC\]  
\[MC\] Needs suitable WG to be identified  
\[NC\] Suggested to present at SECDISPATCH to find a suitable WG  
\[Eric Voit\] Is there anything that is not covered in Trusted Path
Routing that needs to be captured separately? The functional
requirements presented in this draft have been captured in Trusted Path
Routing already and need to discuss if anything is missing.  
\[NC\] Need to take it offline due to time constraints.

**17:06 - 17:13**  
**EAT based Key Attestation Token and Attestation in TLS**  
\[Henk\] Lot of TCG terminology mentioned. Needs to be clarified to
avoid any friction.

**17:14 - 17:22**  
**RATS Message Wrappers**  
\[NC\] Need to send an email on the mailing list to solicit feedback for
adoption.

**17:23 - 17:30**  
\*\* UCCS \*\*  
\[Henk\] Needs more review. Some new additional comments have been
provided that need closure.  
\[Ned Smith\] Poll on whether UCCS should go to WGLC directly? Out of 21
participants, 20 raised hands for WGLC adoption.  
Consensus was to go for WGLC adoption.  
\[NS\] The chairs will notify the RATS list of the intention to
transition the UCCS draft to WGLC.