[{"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "

Mic heavily overdriven

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:36:23Z"}, {"author": "Francesca Palombini", "text": "

hello

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:36:47Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "

Carsten: better now?

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:37:45Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "

Hullo all!

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:37:51Z"}, {"author": "Mark Andrews", "text": "

better

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:37:54Z"}, {"author": "Eric Orth", "text": "

Much better for me.

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:38:01Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "

i dunno i kinda like the lars-through-a-fuzz-pedal vibe. but yeah this is much clearer. :)

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:39:01Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "

Good morning, good audio

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:39:31Z"}, {"author": "Christian Huitema", "text": "

The note well is not meant to be read by anyone over 60.

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:39:40Z"}, {"author": "Bill Fenner", "text": "

Or some over 40.

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:40:17Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "

Most over 60 have seen it since they were over 50?

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:40:55Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "

Lorenzo Miniero said:

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Carsten: better now?

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Near perfect.

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:41:00Z"}, {"author": "Christian Huitema", "text": "

Bob, that means we can keep following whatever old recollection we have of the note well. Cool.

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:41:45Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "

The Note well should have a SHA256 hash at the bottom so we can be assured it is unaltered from what we are used to seeing! Eat our dogfood.

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:42:28Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "

Oh course we will have to develop a standard on how to hash contents of a slide.

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:45:18Z"}, {"author": "George Michaelson", "text": "

the hash of a slide in comic sans is in comic sans

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:45:53Z"}, {"author": "Anthony Somerset", "text": "

can someone please write a BCP that forbids the use of comic sans!

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:46:43Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

Really pleased to see the childcare alongside IETF.

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:47:08Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "

careful, or you will find that all RFCs will be rendered in Comic Sans

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:47:20Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "

;-)

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:47:40Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "

Looking forward to IETF 102^H^H^H 111^H^H^H117 in San Francisco!

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:47:43Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "

@Anthony, I needed this. Good chuckle. I am in Montreal for an ICAO meeting and connecting in at night to join you all. I am getting a tad old for this kind of time commitment.

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:50:28Z"}, {"author": "Shivan Sahib", "text": "

No Mexico in North America?

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:53:24Z"}, {"author": "Reese Enghardt", "text": "

The gender is multi-select though, it should add up to more than 100%

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:53:32Z"}, {"author": "Reese Enghardt", "text": "

(but I think that only changed recently)

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:53:43Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "

Perhaps the risk this year is backend loaded with the social taking place on Thursday evening?

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:55:09Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "

(Covid numbers)

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:55:18Z"}, {"author": "Jim Fenton", "text": "

Was wondering about that too.

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:56:45Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "

clap clap

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:57:06Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "

I never clap for lack of appeals. There should be the occasional appeal. Surely we have some disagreements in this community.

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:58:13Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "

Is childcare available for immature participants like me?

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:59:29Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "

Look around you pete

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:59:51Z"}, {"author": "Jason Livingood", "text": "

:satisfied:

", "time": "2023-03-29T08:59:57Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "

This is the childcare

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:01:12Z"}, {"author": "Francesca Palombini", "text": "

:clap: :clap: :clap:

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:01:22Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "

Clap Clap!!!!!

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:01:23Z"}, {"author": "Mirjam Kuehne", "text": "

big applause

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:01:24Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "

clap clap clap

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:01:25Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "

clap clap :D

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:01:40Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "

I do clap for them.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:01:48Z"}, {"author": "Hern\u00e2ni Marques", "text": "

clap

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:01:58Z"}, {"author": "John Klensin", "text": "

more clapping

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:02:07Z"}, {"author": "Christian Huitema", "text": "

We indeed have very good relashionships with the ITU-T...

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:02:30Z"}, {"author": "Bill Fenner", "text": "

Isn't there a standard defining the quality of our relationship?

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:03:12Z"}, {"author": "Hern\u00e2ni Marques", "text": "

lol

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:03:26Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "

This timezone difference is killing and confusing me, is the Hot Speaker session today ?

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:03:50Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "

Nobody told him that we would giggle that he wore a suit and tie instead of a t-shirt. But we will give him a pass for being new.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:04:11Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "

Define \"today\" in this context.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:04:18Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "

@Bill - It is still a draft, looking for collaboration ... for WGLC... :)

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:04:37Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "

Meaning < 24hours from now

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:04:41Z"}, {"author": "Hern\u00e2ni Marques", "text": "

Thanks to the sun, it's possible to know what time it supposedly is. #jetlagged

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:05:27Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "

If I'm doing my math correctly, the Host Speaker talk is approximately 17 hours from now. (Tomorrow Lunchtime JST.)

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:06:15Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "

Ohhh I get it, for Japan it will be tomorrow, for me Central USA will be 21:45

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:06:48Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "

The IETF agenda page will display in your local timezone, which is very helpful.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:07:31Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "

Use the \"local time\" select for the agenda. I could not be in the right room and set my alarm to wake up without that feature.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:07:44Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "

Yes but when the day changes the session still shows the day for Japan

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:08:00Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "

I tend to ignore that. It is just a label to identify the session slot.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:09:03Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "

Even selecting local time for example for the Host Speaker it still says \"Thursday\" for me it will still be \"Wednesday\"

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:10:13Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "

The black lines show the days in your own timezone, the blue lines show the days in names of the session slots which are in the venue timezone

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:11:18Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "

I feel that the sessions must be labeled in the time zone of the meeting. It would be really hard to talk about which slot for a meeting over email otherwise.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:11:30Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "

@Jonathan, AH, I had to scroll up to see that it is now Wednesday also for me.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:12:50Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "

Ohhh didn't notice that before Jonathan, thanks !!

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:12:52Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "

What's a \"TPC chair\"?

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:16:07Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "

Nice phone ring ;-)

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:16:14Z"}, {"author": "Reese Enghardt", "text": "

Technical Program Committee chair

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:16:16Z"}, {"author": "Reese Enghardt", "text": "

TPC are the people reviewing the papers to decide which ones get accepted

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:16:44Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "

My academic TLAs are rusty.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:18:36Z"}, {"author": "Reese Enghardt", "text": "

No worries, I'm sure others had the same question

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:19:34Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Sullivan", "text": "

I am the Andrew in question, to be clear, with my Internet Society President hat on.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:20:12Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "

I don't what it says about us that we have people serving for that many terms. Great for them that they do this. Bad for us that we do not have greater depth in capable/available people?

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:23:43Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "

Good summary (but it is also about employers ready to pay someone working for the IETF)

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:24:44Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "

Thank you Rich!

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:25:01Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "

For the employer, it is basically signing up as an IETF sponsorer.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:25:48Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Sullivan", "text": "

Note that I am _still_ accepting nominations for next year's nomcom chair, until the end of this week. See the announcement and reminder on ietf@ietf.org. Thanks to Rich for accepting the job for 2022-23!

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:26:34Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "

Someone recently mentioned that it's much easier for a company to give the full salary of an engineer (and probably much more than that) as a contribution in cash than to give up a large percentage of an engineer for at least 2 years.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:27:08Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "

@Andrew, is that a notewell?

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:27:22Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Sullivan", "text": "

You may note it well if you wish :-)

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:27:38Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "

The one time I was approached for an AD slot, my employer at the time could not afford that level of time dedication away from what they needed me to do. So I get it.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:29:24Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "

Is there a way to set zulip to autoscroll down ?

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:30:36Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

Use the Android app?

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:31:25Z"}, {"author": "Shivan Sahib", "text": "

This is clearly an old pic - no Salesforce tower

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:31:56Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "

Apps help

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:32:00Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "

I'm using the Windoze desktop app

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:32:53Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "

No South America on the list ?

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:33:02Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "

We had one S.A. meeting so far.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:33:28Z"}, {"author": "Bill Fenner", "text": "

Does the Internet Society match the gift from the Internet Society?
\nDoes the Internet Society match the match from the Internet Society?
\n...

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:34:36Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

Has the IETF ever met south of the equator?

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:34:49Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "

That is why it is 2:1

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:34:52Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Sullivan", "text": "

Please note that the 2:1 won't last forever\u2014see the original announcement\u2014so if you are on the fence hurry! And no, Bill, we don't match our own donations :)

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:35:07Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "

On the equator at Singapore!

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:35:15Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Sullivan", "text": "

The IETF has met south of the equator several times.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:35:25Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "

Once in Australia and once in Argentina, I believe.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:35:37Z"}, {"author": "Christian Huitema", "text": "

https://www.ietf.org/blog/bienvenidos-buenos-aires-welcome-buenos-aires/

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:35:38Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

Let's do it again! I've never been

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:35:47Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "

There was one in Buenos Aires but don't remember other in SA

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:36:57Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "

BA is my home town, but moved north looooong ago

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:37:34Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "

The live transcription provided at RIPE meetings sets an impressive benchmark that the IETF could follow

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:37:44Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "

Correct. Australia and Bangkok? Singapore is on the line.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:38:15Z"}, {"author": "Anthony Somerset", "text": "

need to come to south africa :)

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:38:34Z"}, {"author": "Mirjam Kuehne", "text": "

:wave: :wave:

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:38:52Z"}, {"author": "Mirjam Kuehne", "text": "

Thank you :)

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:39:05Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Sullivan", "text": "

Yeah, I was counting SIN. It's certainly true it's not a lot.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:39:27Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "

Sigh. I am falling back asleep. And my morning alarm is coming all too soon for another great ICAO meeting which is 50% ICAO politics/procedures. So I will have to see the delayed replay for the rest of the plenary. Catch you at some session or other.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:42:16Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "

\"low room occupancy\".... The IETF rate was WAY higher than any other rate...

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:43:14Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "

is the plenary migrating back to the borefest of reports it used be?

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:47:22Z"}, {"author": "Bill Fenner", "text": "

Seems like hotels are not inclined to make the same kind of negotiations that they did before COVID

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:47:22Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "

@Bill it seems so...

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:47:59Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "

I still think that the NOC reports (\"the issues we ran into this time\") were something the people actually enjoyed -- but I may be biased...

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:48:55Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "

@Warren I was and would like to see it again !

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:49:27Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "

@Bill, Eric It might vary by geography as the room rates for recent RIPE and OARC meetings did have better discounts than were readily available elsewhere

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:49:27Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "

NOC reports better than IETF trust issues with yang, yep;-)

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:49:34Z"}, {"author": "Bill Fenner", "text": "

Just create a noc report topic in zulip and start spinning the yarn, Warren!

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:50:27Z"}, {"author": "Bill Fenner", "text": "

It was a dark and stormy night. The valiant NOC members battled the storm

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:51:22Z"}, {"author": "Maja Andjelkovic", "text": "

Im online :)

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:52:09Z"}, {"author": "Mirjam Kuehne", "text": "

so am I :)

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:52:15Z"}, {"author": "Jason Livingood", "text": "

Hi Maja and Mirjam! Thanks for joining remotely! Very early for Maja.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:55:23Z"}, {"author": "J\u00e1nos Farkas", "text": "

Thank you for your efforts Alvaro!

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:55:54Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

His title is RAD

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:56:17Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Sullivan", "text": "

I have much cheering for Alvaro, but I also must say that I think it's wonderful to see an AD joining with a baby.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:56:27Z"}, {"author": "Francesca Palombini", "text": "

he's dressed for the occasion :D

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:57:13Z"}, {"author": "Hern\u00e2ni Marques", "text": "

Oh no, automatically generated I-Ds by ChatGPT.

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:57:13Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Sullivan", "text": "

I noticed!

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:57:21Z"}, {"author": "Hern\u00e2ni Marques", "text": "

(Which pass the consensus process, achieved by bots on the MLs)

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:58:06Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "

We used to tear off the dot, like the rending of clothes!

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:58:26Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "

Yay Leonardo!

", "time": "2023-03-29T09:59:17Z"}, {"author": "Shivan Sahib", "text": "

Leonardo is very cute

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:00:10Z"}, {"author": "Francesca Palombini", "text": "

thank you! :)

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:00:42Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "

Future IETF'er in the making :heart:

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:00:53Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "

Super Cute! :baby:

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:01:38Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "

Hopefully when it is time for him to join IETF IPv6 will be fully deployed :wink:

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:01:51Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "

They're talking past eachother. Ted is saying not to have anything in the policy to say that someone other than the LLC issues letters.

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:07:45Z"}, {"author": "Martin D\u00fcrst", "text": "

WG chair may be in completely different country than interim meeting.

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:10:18Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "

Given the financial and time cost, are there many in-person interim meetings.

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:10:36Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "

Does the LLC issue letters for all plenary meetings? Or do they depend on hosts?

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:11:24Z"}, {"author": "Anthony Somerset", "text": "

i got from ietf for 114 - philly

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:12:13Z"}, {"author": "Anthony Somerset", "text": "

and i vaguely recall host for japan

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:12:45Z"}, {"author": "Jay Daley", "text": "

We arrange with a local host for them to issue letters of invitation, for all meetings

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:15:47Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "

@Jay Daley Ack. Thanks.

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:16:52Z"}, {"author": "Jason Livingood", "text": "

Re current Q&A at the mic, worth reading https://www.ietf.org/blog/ietf-llc-statement-on-remote-meeting-participation/

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:16:54Z"}, {"author": "Francesca Palombini", "text": "

Stephen FWIW my DISCUSS came from the community (an ART ART review for IETF LC) - and I am very grateful for the authors quick replies (my DISCUSS is now resolved with a little bit more clarifying text)

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:18:02Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "

So the LLC and/or IESG failed to participate in the Last Call?

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:18:03Z"}, {"author": "Martin Duke", "text": "

It takes two parties to make it difficult

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:18:44Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "

@Martin Duke: Nope, not if there was consensus in Last Call.

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:19:31Z"}, {"author": "David Schinazi", "text": "

I don't think that's always true Martin

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:19:36Z"}, {"author": "Jay Daley", "text": "

To be clear on the LLC position - it was not the principles or process of the I-D we had problems with, but the effect of some of the peripheral text in the document about how meeting finances work.

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:20:09Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "

@Jason: Thank You!

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:20:26Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "

I had Abstrained, but am now a Yes on the shmoo document. My reason was that IMO the abstract said everything that needed to be said. My concern was that we delegated the actual mechanics of this sort of thing to the LLC, and then the document sounded like it was telling the LLC how to do tier jobs... this felt impolite to me...

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:23:22Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Sullivan", "text": "

It sounds to me like Mark is asking for a process that will never result in miscommunications, and I am not too convinced that will work.

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:23:33Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "

@Jay Daley but it's tricky that the LLC is so involved in IESG ballot processing

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:23:45Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "

And hence we discover that there should be more appeals.

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:24:03Z"}, {"author": "Jay Daley", "text": "

@Stephen Farrell Yes that's clear - my fault for not understanding those implications earlier, but it seemed better than waiting until last call.

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:24:40Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "

@Steven: I didn't really think that they were -- I read the document, and thought \"I like the principle and idea. I think that tellin' em how to implement is impolite\"...

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:24:51Z"}, {"author": "Dan Harkins", "text": "

@Stephen, that's a great point. How did it involve itself?

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:24:53Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "

@Jay Daley IIRC last-call went smoothly it was during IESG ballot things exploded

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:25:29Z"}, {"author": "Jay Daley", "text": "

Not WG LC

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:25:48Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "

@Warren Kumari, you felt ABSTAIN (which is effectively a \"No, I'm not supporting this document\") is the appropriate call for \"impoliteness\"?

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:26:26Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "

@Warren Kumari I kind of agree the document is longer than needed but if the IESG were to be abstaining for that reason on docs... and in this case, the added words weren't (again IRRC) binding on anyone

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:26:36Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "

The MeetEcho queue makes no sense?

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:26:43Z"}, {"author": "Anthony Somerset", "text": "

people need to remember to remove themselves when done

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:27:14Z"}, {"author": "Francesca Palombini", "text": "

I think Stephen and Mark were in queue from the IESG open mic

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:27:20Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "

I could ask the same question and see what the IAB say? :-)

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:27:37Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "

@Stephen Farrell I believe that's called an appeal.

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:28:21Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "

may as well go straight to andrew so

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:28:41Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Sullivan", "text": "

If you're suggesting this Andrew, Stephen, it doesn't go to me and anyway the Internet Society BoT doesn't rule on substance, only process disputes.

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:29:39Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "

see, I knew you'd have an answer

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:29:56Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Sullivan", "text": "

:D

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:30:02Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Sullivan", "text": "

It is astonishing how much I still know about process rules given that I have literally no contribution to any standards work any more!

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:30:40Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "

...it's like falling off a bicycle, you never really forget how to do it...

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:31:17Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Sullivan", "text": "

Maybe it's the banging my head that taught me.

", "time": "2023-03-29T10:31:57Z"}]