[{"author": "Yoav Nir", "text": "<p>Is anyone looking at the chat?</p>", "time": "2023-03-29T06:35:10Z"}, {"author": "Tobias Brunner", "text": "<p>I think my headset has some issues, sorry</p>", "time": "2023-03-29T06:41:52Z"}, {"author": "Yoav Nir", "text": "<p>@Tobias: we didn't get the indication that you clicked the mic icon</p>", "time": "2023-03-29T06:42:35Z"}, {"author": "Tobias Brunner", "text": "<p>I think proposal 2 is better because the IKE and CHILD_SA KE proposals are not necessarily the same (in particular when using multiple KE)</p>", "time": "2023-03-29T06:42:55Z"}, {"author": "Yoav Nir", "text": "<p>Now we do...</p>", "time": "2023-03-29T06:43:01Z"}, {"author": "Yoav Nir", "text": "<p>Re: IPComp, we could say \"don't use optimized rekey if you are using ipcomp\" - that makes the problem go away, no?</p>", "time": "2023-03-29T06:51:20Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Migault", "text": "<p>ikev3</p>", "time": "2023-03-29T07:23:02Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Migault", "text": "<p>i mean using a version could be used.</p>", "time": "2023-03-29T07:23:40Z"}, {"author": "Yoav Nir", "text": "<p>Want to say that at the mic, Daniel?</p>", "time": "2023-03-29T07:23:42Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Migault", "text": "<p>you can say it.</p>", "time": "2023-03-29T07:23:57Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Migault", "text": "<p>will say it on the mailing list.</p>", "time": "2023-03-29T07:24:20Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Migault", "text": "<p>otherwise.</p>", "time": "2023-03-29T07:24:26Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Migault", "text": "<p>@yoav thanks for carrying the message.</p>", "time": "2023-03-29T07:28:20Z"}, {"author": "Dan Harkins", "text": "<p>I did IKEv3 about 6 years ago.</p>", "time": "2023-03-29T07:28:46Z"}, {"author": "Dan Harkins", "text": "<p>draft-harkins-ikev3 from April 2013. Wow. It was actually 10 years ago.</p>", "time": "2023-03-29T07:29:44Z"}, {"author": "Yoav Nir", "text": "<p>There's a whole bunch of notifications that appear only in the IKE_SA_INIT to signal support for things that might appear in IKE_SA_AUTH - things that didn't exist yet when the original IKEv2 doc was published.  If we were to do an IKEv3, we could have all of them supported from the start.</p>", "time": "2023-03-29T07:30:48Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Migault", "text": "<p>I think SCHC or somehting similar should be looked at rather tha rohc.</p>", "time": "2023-03-29T07:30:49Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Migault", "text": "<p>we are in favor of such work.</p>", "time": "2023-03-29T07:40:24Z"}, {"author": "Pierre Pfister", "text": "<p>Terms of the IPR disclosure are good.</p>", "time": "2023-03-29T07:41:20Z"}, {"author": "Steffen Klassert", "text": "<p>Why not just setting the DF bit at the ingress node? Then you get the PMTU info without a new notification.</p>", "time": "2023-03-29T07:51:51Z"}]