[{"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "<p>OHAI is apps too</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T07:39:40Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "<p>NIST is having a Lightweight crypto virtual workshop Jun 21-22 on work on selected ASCON.</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T07:43:15Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "<p><a href=\"https://csrc.nist.gov/Events/2023/lightweight-cryptography-workshop-2023\">https://csrc.nist.gov/Events/2023/lightweight-cryptography-workshop-2023</a></p>", "time": "2023-03-30T07:43:18Z"}, {"author": "Deb Cooley", "text": "<p>that must be an old list...</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T07:48:08Z"}, {"author": "Nicholas Gajcowski", "text": "<p>The ratio of closed to reported may be better.  Lol</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T07:48:22Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "<p>Given that I am in Montreal this week for the ICAO Trust Framework Panel, I could not handle 3 conferences this week.  Sigh.</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T07:51:18Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "<p>Interesting.  Hugo called it SigMa,  SIgn and Mac.</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T07:55:46Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "<p>@Robert Moskowitz: Thanks for the link!</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:11:16Z"}, {"author": "Alexey Melnikov", "text": "<p>Thank you for the talk!</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:11:52Z"}, {"author": "Sofia Celi", "text": "<p>omg, Kazue!</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:12:12Z"}, {"author": "Alexey Melnikov", "text": "<p>The slides contained a typo in the YouTube link. The correct link is <a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/@TheIACR\">https://www.youtube.com/@TheIACR</a></p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:12:34Z"}, {"author": "Alexey Melnikov", "text": "<p>The slide had lowercase \u201cL\u201d instead of \u201cI\u201d</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:13:09Z"}, {"author": "Sofia Celi", "text": "<p>oh thank you! I'll try pointing a new set of slides @Alexey Melnikov ;)</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:13:56Z"}, {"author": "Alexey Melnikov", "text": "<p>Thank you Sofia</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:14:21Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "<p>Amazing overview, thanks Sofia!</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:14:34Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "<p>Thank you, Sofia!</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:15:57Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "<p>If formal methods are a new requirements, there should be tools available for the community...</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:16:51Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "<p>No way we can slow down now.  We do need to do the analysis but there is so much work to do.  Formal methods we all need to learn more about.,</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:16:56Z"}, {"author": "Deb Cooley", "text": "<p>speed is not the answer</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:17:30Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "<p>Agreed, we can't slow down, but figuring out how to scale the formal analysis so it can be more broadly applied is a good ambition.</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:17:35Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "<p>If we do this for security, should this approach be extended to other areas?</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:17:51Z"}, {"author": "Deb Cooley", "text": "<p>analysis be that formal methods or other methods are important</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:17:53Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "<p>@Pieter +1 or more.</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:18:00Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "<p>GOTO <a href=\"https://datatracker.ietf.org/rg/ufmrg/\">https://datatracker.ietf.org/rg/ufmrg/</a> and help do stuff</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:18:10Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "<p>it's only starting though, don't expect miracles</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:18:27Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "<p>@Stephen Farrell: Gladly... we would just need time and resources for that... heheheheh!!!</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:20:08Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "<p>To speaker.  Asking the right question has always been the advise to engineers.  We are no different.  No miracles anywhere.</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:20:49Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "<p>Agreed with Justin - Formal Analysis != Secure. It's one more tool, but you need to understand the analysis itself (including what the target is).</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:21:33Z"}, {"author": "Deb Cooley", "text": "<p>it is a tool in the toolbox.</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:22:30Z"}, {"author": "Deb Cooley", "text": "<p>but it is not the only tool</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:22:36Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "<p>Formal methods pixie dust comes from the same pixies as security pixie dust, I guess.</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:22:54Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "<p>I didn't realise the ufmrg would be so popular so soon:-)</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:23:51Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "<p>there're a bunch of references to protocols for which these methods were already used in the RG wiki: <a href=\"https://wiki.ietf.org/en/group/ufm\">https://wiki.ietf.org/en/group/ufm</a></p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:24:17Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "<p>Hope to see you all in SanFran!</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:27:18Z"}, {"author": "Jean Queralt", "text": "<p>Thanks for the session.</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:27:29Z"}, {"author": "Benson Muite", "text": "<p>Thanks</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:27:30Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "<p>Thank you!</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T08:27:42Z"}]