[{"author": "Russ Housley", "text": "<p>Doing agenda out of order.  Hope the other presenters will show up soon</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T04:04:44Z"}, {"author": "David Waltermire", "text": "<p>For end of presentation: What can we do as a WG to speed progress on this draft?</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T04:07:23Z"}, {"author": "David Waltermire", "text": "<p><a href=\"https://github.com/suit-wg/suit-firmware-encryption/issues/12\">https://github.com/suit-wg/suit-firmware-encryption/issues/12</a></p>", "time": "2023-03-30T04:14:20Z"}, {"author": "Henk Birkholz", "text": "<p>If Brendan will not show up, I will present on suit report</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T04:15:48Z"}, {"author": "David Waltermire", "text": "<p>Can we get a link to the github?</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T04:23:52Z"}, {"author": "Dave Thaler", "text": "<p><a href=\"https://github.com/bremoran/suit-mti\">https://github.com/bremoran/suit-mti</a></p>", "time": "2023-03-30T04:25:03Z"}, {"author": "Dave Thaler", "text": "<p>(and I just now linked it to the draft in Additional Resources section)</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T04:26:03Z"}, {"author": "David Waltermire", "text": "<p>What about suit mud?</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T04:28:33Z"}, {"author": "Ajitomi, Daisuke", "text": "<p>Hmm... I believe COSE-HPKE is close to completion, as there aren't many remaining challenges left to address ...</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T04:28:42Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": "<p>Sorry I am late, but I have arrived now.</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T04:29:40Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": "<p>I'm here now!</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T04:30:09Z"}, {"author": "Russ Housley", "text": "<p>@Daisuke: We also want to use a non-AEAD cipher which is not supported in HPKE</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T04:38:57Z"}, {"author": "Ira McDonald", "text": "<p>Agree with Russ - add the explicit exception for HSS LMS - agree w/ ECDH</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T04:43:44Z"}, {"author": "David Brown", "text": "<p>Would ECDH-ES + AEAD not still require something to sign? ECDH-ES does not authenticate the sender.</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T04:44:30Z"}, {"author": "Russ Housley", "text": "<p>Yes.</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T04:45:18Z"}, {"author": "Russ Housley", "text": "<p>I think Brendan is suggesting ECDH-ES with a MAC</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T04:46:11Z"}, {"author": "David Brown", "text": "<p>It is unclear to me what the key for the MAC would be, though.</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T04:47:21Z"}, {"author": "Ajitomi, Daisuke", "text": "<blockquote>\n<p>We also want to use a non-AEAD cipher </p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>I did not know that, as I haven't read the recent draft.</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T04:48:44Z"}, {"author": "Russ Housley", "text": "<p>ECDH-ES can provide a key for an AEAD or a MAC or any other symmetric algorithm</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T04:49:11Z"}, {"author": "Ajitomi, Daisuke", "text": "<p>I am aware of that, but I thought that when using public key-based methods such as HPKE (or ECDH-ES), this WG accept the constraint of being based on AEAD.</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T04:59:25Z"}, {"author": "Russ Housley", "text": "<p>Please see draft-ietf-cose-aes-ctr-and-cbc-03</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T05:02:17Z"}, {"author": "Ajitomi, Daisuke", "text": "<p>okay, thanks.</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T05:03:41Z"}, {"author": "Hannes Tschofenig", "text": "<p>Thank you all</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T05:09:40Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "<p>Thank you!</p>", "time": "2023-03-30T05:09:57Z"}]