[{"author": "Russ Housley", "text": "

Doing agenda out of order. Hope the other presenters will show up soon

", "time": "2023-03-30T04:04:44Z"}, {"author": "David Waltermire", "text": "

For end of presentation: What can we do as a WG to speed progress on this draft?

", "time": "2023-03-30T04:07:23Z"}, {"author": "David Waltermire", "text": "

https://github.com/suit-wg/suit-firmware-encryption/issues/12

", "time": "2023-03-30T04:14:20Z"}, {"author": "Henk Birkholz", "text": "

If Brendan will not show up, I will present on suit report

", "time": "2023-03-30T04:15:48Z"}, {"author": "David Waltermire", "text": "

Can we get a link to the github?

", "time": "2023-03-30T04:23:52Z"}, {"author": "Dave Thaler", "text": "

https://github.com/bremoran/suit-mti

", "time": "2023-03-30T04:25:03Z"}, {"author": "Dave Thaler", "text": "

(and I just now linked it to the draft in Additional Resources section)

", "time": "2023-03-30T04:26:03Z"}, {"author": "David Waltermire", "text": "

What about suit mud?

", "time": "2023-03-30T04:28:33Z"}, {"author": "Ajitomi, Daisuke", "text": "

Hmm... I believe COSE-HPKE is close to completion, as there aren't many remaining challenges left to address ...

", "time": "2023-03-30T04:28:42Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": "

Sorry I am late, but I have arrived now.

", "time": "2023-03-30T04:29:40Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": "

I'm here now!

", "time": "2023-03-30T04:30:09Z"}, {"author": "Russ Housley", "text": "

@Daisuke: We also want to use a non-AEAD cipher which is not supported in HPKE

", "time": "2023-03-30T04:38:57Z"}, {"author": "Ira McDonald", "text": "

Agree with Russ - add the explicit exception for HSS LMS - agree w/ ECDH

", "time": "2023-03-30T04:43:44Z"}, {"author": "David Brown", "text": "

Would ECDH-ES + AEAD not still require something to sign? ECDH-ES does not authenticate the sender.

", "time": "2023-03-30T04:44:30Z"}, {"author": "Russ Housley", "text": "

Yes.

", "time": "2023-03-30T04:45:18Z"}, {"author": "Russ Housley", "text": "

I think Brendan is suggesting ECDH-ES with a MAC

", "time": "2023-03-30T04:46:11Z"}, {"author": "David Brown", "text": "

It is unclear to me what the key for the MAC would be, though.

", "time": "2023-03-30T04:47:21Z"}, {"author": "Ajitomi, Daisuke", "text": "
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We also want to use a non-AEAD cipher

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I did not know that, as I haven't read the recent draft.

", "time": "2023-03-30T04:48:44Z"}, {"author": "Russ Housley", "text": "

ECDH-ES can provide a key for an AEAD or a MAC or any other symmetric algorithm

", "time": "2023-03-30T04:49:11Z"}, {"author": "Ajitomi, Daisuke", "text": "

I am aware of that, but I thought that when using public key-based methods such as HPKE (or ECDH-ES), this WG accept the constraint of being based on AEAD.

", "time": "2023-03-30T04:59:25Z"}, {"author": "Russ Housley", "text": "

Please see draft-ietf-cose-aes-ctr-and-cbc-03

", "time": "2023-03-30T05:02:17Z"}, {"author": "Ajitomi, Daisuke", "text": "

okay, thanks.

", "time": "2023-03-30T05:03:41Z"}, {"author": "Hannes Tschofenig", "text": "

Thank you all

", "time": "2023-03-30T05:09:40Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "

Thank you!

", "time": "2023-03-30T05:09:57Z"}]