[{"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "

Is there any way to make this text bigger? It's not very readable

", "time": "2023-03-30T07:35:05Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "

Possibly if you make the window smaller

", "time": "2023-03-30T07:35:11Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "

(Actually, double-clicking on the shared screen makes it bigger, by hiding the chat/participants.)

", "time": "2023-03-30T07:39:05Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "

URL doesn't match the title. :-)

", "time": "2023-03-30T07:41:38Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "

:)

", "time": "2023-03-30T07:43:49Z"}, {"author": "Juliusz Chroboczek", "text": "

That new-fangled Internet thing, it never works ;-)

", "time": "2023-03-30T07:52:30Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "

I agree the server can decide to send whatever it wants: the client can ask what it wants, which may or may not be honoured (right away)

", "time": "2023-03-30T07:55:51Z"}, {"author": "Juliusz Chroboczek", "text": "

Lorenzo, I'm not comfortable with the server sending more than what the client requested. If the client states that it is constrained, then it most probably knows what it's doing.

", "time": "2023-03-30T07:57:11Z"}, {"author": "Juliusz Chroboczek", "text": "

Same thing with congestion control. If you need to send more than your congestion controller indicates, then your congestion controller is broken.

", "time": "2023-03-30T07:57:58Z"}, {"author": "Juliusz Chroboczek", "text": "

(In my experience, I've had issues with congestion control being too aggressive, but not with it being too conservative.)

", "time": "2023-03-30T07:58:21Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "

Juliusz: I was indeed agreeing with you :-) If your server decides it doesn't want to send more than what BWE says, it should be able to ignore what the client asked

", "time": "2023-03-30T07:59:46Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "

Hence the \"it may not be honoured right away\": maybe you keep track of it, but only honour the request once BWE says it's ok to do

", "time": "2023-03-30T08:00:24Z"}, {"author": "Juliusz Chroboczek", "text": "

Agreed.

", "time": "2023-03-30T08:04:03Z"}, {"author": "Juliusz Chroboczek", "text": "

But I think it should be made explicit.

", "time": "2023-03-30T08:04:48Z"}, {"author": "Harald Alvestrand", "text": "

if you need to send more than your congestion controller allows, then your need will not be satisfied.

", "time": "2023-03-30T08:06:47Z"}, {"author": "Juliusz Chroboczek", "text": "

You'll send it all right. You'll just fill up the routers' buffers, and increase both latency and packet drop for yourself and everyone else.

", "time": "2023-03-30T08:07:54Z"}, {"author": "Harald Alvestrand", "text": "

\"send an SVC layer\" is a term that is highly dependent on the SVC layer structure. You have to send that layer and everything it depends on.

", "time": "2023-03-30T08:07:54Z"}, {"author": "Harald Alvestrand", "text": "

Juliusz, not if you use our WebRTC implementation. The packets will be dropped before they hit the network.

", "time": "2023-03-30T08:08:23Z"}, {"author": "Juliusz Chroboczek", "text": "

Nice implementation :-)

", "time": "2023-03-30T08:09:06Z"}, {"author": "Harald Alvestrand", "text": "

if they are generated at all. For locally encoded streams, the estimated egress bandwidth is fed back to the encoder and it is told to \"only produce this much, please\".

", "time": "2023-03-30T08:09:46Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "

In this case the encoder is remote, though (a WHIP endpoint somewhere)

", "time": "2023-03-30T08:10:13Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "

*WHIP client

", "time": "2023-03-30T08:10:25Z"}, {"author": "Harald Alvestrand", "text": "

Most likely yes. That's where SVC is very convenient (drop layers).

", "time": "2023-03-30T08:10:35Z"}, {"author": "Juliusz Chroboczek", "text": "

Harald is thinking in terms of a streaming server that does local encodig. Lorenzo is thinking in terms of an SFU. Please don't fight ;-)

", "time": "2023-03-30T08:11:00Z"}, {"author": "Sergio Garcia Murillo", "text": "

note that BWE can be buggy :) (not my own, of course :satisfied:)

", "time": "2023-03-30T08:12:12Z"}]