================================================================ Drone Remote ID Protocol (drip) Meeting Agenda Tue, March 28, 2023 Co-Chairs: Daniel Migault & Mohamed Boucadair ================================================================ * Note well, logistics, and introduction Med opened the meeting at 14:31 local time, displaying the Note Well. * Agenda Bashing (5 min) Med reviewed the agenda. * Documents Status (5 min) AD Eric V. ensured we had a note taker. Med thanked the authors, reviewers, editors & Eric V. * Report IANA Discussion (Stu, 5 min) Number of things outside world since 115 ANRA building CS-RID with contract with FAA ASTM A2X security framework Carrying flag ion A2X framework for DRIP ANSI gap report for standard documents for UAS "uncrewed" not "unmanned" ... yay stay with "unmanned" then switch field test interop of rid DRIP @ ICAO MOC back burner till all docs DRIP showing off to FAA next week US agencies deploying need more participants outside US registry arch is WG, individual techs are not need round is stuff to do useful things ICAO wants Observer from IETF in TFP ASTM wants ICAO as RID registrar Good news (unofficial), ICAO is "days away" for this Talks with IANA as a backfill, ready to approach ASTM for this IANA unofficially agrees if ASTM asks ghost letter by Stu for this purpose Jim Reid: Observer from ietf - representing, as a body or what we doing in this space? what does it entail? TFP for entire aviation, some exerpt in IETF in broad trust issues of networking; need a volunteer from IAB Eric: nobody speaks other than together, IAB liason. just to be clear For ICAO they want an SME as non-voting member Bob: came up today, PQC for PKI. Discussion in this area. They want input. trust in networking. broader of all ietf, not just drip. electronic stuff everywhere...weee. broader discussions that ietf has worked for many years to give advice for icao and its 30-year time frame. * Implementation Updates (Andrei, 10 min) Andrei presented updates on his students' open source implementations of DRIP plus interesting extensions e.g. blockchain. They are actually flying it on Intel NUC w/multi RF links. Formal verification of key pieces is underway. One aspect of HIP BEX has failed. Russ H. suggested IETF (not necessarily DRIP) should fix it. Their open source is on Google Play but must be downloaded via an explicit link as it does not show up in public directories/searches (see Andrei's slides for the link). * draft-ietf-drip-auth (Adam, 10 min) Adam summarized status of authentication draft (see ASTM - ICAO - IANA discussion above), alternative ways forward, recent changes (mostly cleanup), and having made it less dependent on hard references to the less mature registry documents. * draft-ietf-drip-registries (Adam, 20 min) Adam summarized status of the registry architecture draft. He described how we support not only single use Session IDs but also static manufacturer assigned serial numbers (with 3 methods depending on how the manufacturer plays). While how to handle DETs as such in DNS (.ip6.arpa) is clear, working group debate on DNS handling of SNs is sought. Adam W. & Jim R's suggestion of putting them also in .arpa triggered Russ H. to point out that IAB consultation is next and Kim D. to point out that naming there is typically based not on organizational entities but rather purposes. Jim R. explained we are suggesting ICAO play a role in this similar to the role played by ITU in the enum .arpa space. Bob M. assured us that discussions with high level ICAO people were ongoing and friendly. Adam explained the logic behind the proposed new RR type, which basically was to avoid the costs of extra recursion. Peter Koch (in chat) expressed concern/confusion. Toerless E. suggested we talk w/DNS experts first and if the new RR type is problematic use TXT RRs. Jim R. assured us the new process for new RR types is fast and that almost all deployed software is well behaved when it encounters an unknown RR type. Eric V. reminded us to request an early DNS DIR review. Bob M. explained the justification for harmonizing DRIP endorsements with ICAO's use of X.509. Jim R. extended the ITU precedent with the need to delegate to national authorities (here, likely CAAs), suggesting ICAO knows how to do that. Adam explained attempt at cleaning up registry arch doc. Stu attempted to connect some dots among DRIP, X.509, post quantum, etc. Med suggested Adam try to accelerate timeline, esp. DNS DIR review; Jim R. said go ahead, send then a draft now. Med suggest Adam highlight the proposal for a new RR type, then send it, then we have some interim meetings. * Misc. (5 min) Med solicited any final words then closed the meeting.