PANRG IETF116

When: 13:00-15:00 GMT+9, Tue March 28th, 2023
Where: Meetecho
Chairs: Jen Linkova and Brian Trammell
Minutes Taker: Caspar Schutijser, Ryo Yanagida
Chat room: https://zulip.ietf.org/#narrow/stream/panrg

1. Welcome, Note Well, Agenda — Chairs

• Chairs asked for a two-hour slot but not many presenters this time.
• Chair propose not to meet at IETF 117 in San Fransisco (unless
  interesting work comes up).

2. Update on SCION — Corine de Kater

Presenters: Nicola Rustignoli (onsite) & Corine de Kater (remote)

Presentation notes

• SCION deployments: Swiss Finance network, Swiss national healthcare
  network, SCION Education network.

• SCION drafts:

  • Controle Plane PKI Authentication (draft-dekater-scion-pki-02):
    hopefully a new version for the next meeting.
  • Routing: By IETF117 (?)
  • Data plane packet forwarding : By Q3

  • Component draft update:

    • Terminology: end hosts to endpoints
    • Mention potential relatsinship between SCION and IPv6 EH
    • TODO:
      • Extending interop
      • Further review on terminology

  • Overview draft updates:

    • Minor changes: terminology, authors, language
    • TODO:
      • shorten components description
      • extend deployments section with use cases

  • SCION Control-Plane PKI draft updates:

    • Feedback from reviewers addressed
    • Changes:
      • Moved text around; revised and shortened Certitifcate
        Specification section; fixed minor detail.

Discussion

Antoine Fressancourt: would like to help out with the idea of using IPv6
extension headers.
Nicola Rustignoli: first priority is working on the three drafts but
looking at IPv6 extension headers ...
Jen Linkova: support idea of looking at IPv6 extension headers.

Brian Trammell: Referring to slide 3. Do you think data plane document
by Prague? (IETF118) Are you ready to commit?
Corine de Kater: I think we can commit.
Brian: Not sure if you can invite operator to Prague (IETF118) to talk
about it
Corine: Agree

Brian: Clarification; You mentioned that deployments exists. Are they
using it endpoint-to-endpoint, or tunnelled? How is it used? Those are
all questions I'd like to ask the operators.

Trust-Enhanced Networking Side meeting announcement — Ayoub Messous

Presenter: Ayoub Messous (remote)

Presentation notes

• Announcement of side meeting called Trust-Enhanced Networking.
  Tuesday, 17:00-18:30 in G301.
• What would trust centric networking look like in practice?

Discussion

Nicola Rustignoli: Trust is important, and this work sounds very
important. Looking forward to discuss further at the side-meeting.
Ayoub Messous: Thanks, looking forward to discuss.

Brian Trammell: Could you report back the summary of the discussions?
This seems to be a topic that closely relates to this RG.
Ayoub Messous: Agreed

Closing

See you all in Prague (IETF 118) or in San Fransisco (IETF 117) if
interesting work comes up earlier.

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