# PANRG IETF116   {#panrg-ietf116}

When: 13:00-15:00 GMT+9, Tue March 28th, 2023  
Where: Meetecho  
Chairs: Jen Linkova and Brian Trammell  
Minutes Taker: Caspar Schutijser, Ryo Yanagida  
Chat room: https://zulip.ietf.org/#narrow/stream/panrg

# 1. Welcome, Note Well, Agenda — Chairs   {#1-welcome-note-well-agenda-chairs}

*   Chairs asked for a two-hour slot but not many presenters this time.
*   Chair propose not to meet at IETF 117 in San Fransisco (unless
    interesting work comes up).

# 2. Update on SCION — Corine de Kater   {#2-update-on-scion--corine-de-kater}

Presenters: **Nicola Rustignoli (onsite) & Corine de Kater (remote)**

## Presentation notes   {#presentation-notes}

*   SCION deployments: Swiss Finance network, Swiss national healthcare
    network, SCION Education network.
*   SCION drafts:
    *   Controle Plane PKI Authentication (draft-dekater-scion-pki-02):
        hopefully a new version for the next meeting.
    *   Routing: By IETF117 (?)
    *   Data plane packet forwarding : By Q3
    *   Component draft update:
        *   Terminology: end hosts to endpoints
        *   Mention potential relatsinship between SCION and IPv6 EH
        *   TODO:
            *   Extending interop
            *   Further review on terminology
    
    *   Overview draft updates:
        *   Minor changes: terminology, authors, language
        *   TODO:
            *   shorten components description
            *   extend deployments section with use cases
    
    *   SCION Control-Plane PKI draft updates:
        *   Feedback from reviewers addressed
        *   Changes:
            *   Moved text around; revised and shortened *Certitifcate
                Specification* section; fixed minor detail.

## Discussion   {#discussion}

Antoine Fressancourt: would like to help out with the idea of using IPv6
extension headers.  
Nicola Rustignoli: first priority is working on the three drafts but
looking at IPv6 extension headers ...  
Jen Linkova: support idea of looking at IPv6 extension headers.

Brian Trammell: Referring to slide 3. Do you think data plane document
by Prague? (IETF118) Are you ready to commit?  
Corine de Kater: I think we can commit.  
Brian: Not sure if you can invite operator to Prague (IETF118) to talk
about it  
Corine: Agree

Brian: Clarification; You mentioned that deployments exists. Are they
using it endpoint-to-endpoint, or tunnelled? How is it used? Those are
all questions I'd like to ask the operators.

# Trust-Enhanced Networking Side meeting announcement — Ayoub Messous   {#trust-enhanced-networking-side-meeting-announcement--ayoub-messous}

Presenter: **Ayoub Messous (remote)**

## Presentation notes   {#presentation-notes-1}

*   Announcement of side meeting called *Trust-Enhanced Networking*.
    Tuesday, 17:00-18:30 in G301.
*   What would trust centric networking look like in practice?

## Discussion   {#discussion-1}

Nicola Rustignoli: Trust is important, and this work sounds very
important. Looking forward to discuss further at the side-meeting.  
Ayoub Messous: Thanks, looking forward to discuss.

Brian Trammell: Could you report back the summary of the discussions?
This seems to be a topic that closely relates to this RG.   
Ayoub Messous: Agreed

# Closing   {#closing}

See you all in Prague (IETF 118) or in San Fransisco (IETF 117) if
interesting work comes up earlier.

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