[{"author": "Britta Hale", "text": "<p>MLS v2: More Layering Stuff</p>", "time": "2023-07-28T00:03:46Z"}, {"author": "Nick Sullivan", "text": "<p>Is someone taking notes? Richard is the note taker for the rest of the session.</p>", "time": "2023-07-28T00:06:09Z"}, {"author": "Thom Wiggers", "text": "<p>surely \"Decrypt later\", not encrypt :p</p>", "time": "2023-07-28T00:16:22Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Gillmor", "text": "<p><span class=\"user-mention\" data-user-id=\"123\">@Meetecho Robot</span> can Rohan be made a little bit louder?</p>", "time": "2023-07-28T00:16:44Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "<p>Sending someone over</p>", "time": "2023-07-28T00:17:37Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Gillmor", "text": "<p>thanks!  It's not terrible, just a little subtle</p>", "time": "2023-07-28T00:17:55Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "<p>this should probably use AES-256 and SHA-512, right?</p>", "time": "2023-07-28T00:18:32Z"}, {"author": "Uri Blumenthal", "text": "<p>I like mahy-mls approach</p>", "time": "2023-07-28T00:19:34Z"}, {"author": "Thom Wiggers", "text": "<p>TL;DR: it appears that running Grover's algorithm will be super expensive in practice</p>", "time": "2023-07-28T00:21:44Z"}, {"author": "Uri Blumenthal", "text": "<p>Possibly. But given the low cost and omni-present HW acceleration of AES-256, there's no reason to downgrade to AES-128.</p>", "time": "2023-07-28T00:22:54Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "<p>Webex uses AES-256 for all media (basically just to make the PMs happy), and I've never heard performance complaints</p>", "time": "2023-07-28T00:24:06Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "<p><a href=\"/user_uploads/2/f8/5fAg8dtHo-hf7WLdS_mgM3Eq/image.png\">image.png</a></p>\n<div class=\"message_inline_image\"><a href=\"/user_uploads/2/f8/5fAg8dtHo-hf7WLdS_mgM3Eq/image.png\" title=\"image.png\"><img src=\"/user_uploads/2/f8/5fAg8dtHo-hf7WLdS_mgM3Eq/image.png\"></a></div>", "time": "2023-07-28T00:27:10Z"}, {"author": "Nick Sullivan", "text": "<p>This also mirrors earlier discussions about whether or not there should be different levers for different cryptographic operations like TLS 1.3 or not.</p>", "time": "2023-07-28T00:27:13Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "<p>(reprise from IETF 116)</p>", "time": "2023-07-28T00:27:19Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "<p>+1 to Raphael</p>", "time": "2023-07-28T00:28:20Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "<p>finally consumer reports is covering group key exchange protocols</p>", "time": "2023-07-28T00:41:26Z"}]