[{"author": "Lixia Zhang", "text": "<p>to share the E2E quote I just mentioned:<br>\n\"The function in question can completely and correctly be implemented only with the nowledge and help of the application standing at the end points of the communication system. Therefore, providing that questioned function as a feature of the communication system itself is not possible (Sometimes an incomplete version of the function provided by the communication system may be useful as a performance enhancement.)<br>\nWe call this line of reasoning against low-level function implementation the \u201cend-to-end argument.\u201d</p>", "time": "2023-11-09T08:58:00Z"}, {"author": "David Oran", "text": "<p>there's an even deeper question, which is what exactly it means to be \"in the network\" as opposed to be \"on the network\"</p>", "time": "2023-11-09T09:01:35Z"}, {"author": "Lixia Zhang", "text": "<p>@David Oran: good question. My understanding of the paper: it means in the network which does not understand nor perform higher layer functions</p>", "time": "2023-11-09T09:17:55Z"}, {"author": "Lixia Zhang", "text": "<p>The P4Pir talk started with consideration on \"IoT Security\" (slide-4), but I didn't see clearly where this security consideration is addressed in the work . Hope someone can help clarify.</p>", "time": "2023-11-09T09:39:12Z"}, {"author": "Lixia Zhang", "text": "<p>I'd second Joerg's comments.</p>", "time": "2023-11-09T09:49:11Z"}, {"author": "Lixia Zhang", "text": "<p>I feel a little lost : is this effort (CLAS) about research, or standardization?</p>", "time": "2023-11-09T10:26:44Z"}]