[{"author": "Lou Berger", "text": "<p>thanks</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T12:08:22Z"}, {"author": "Lou Berger", "text": "<p>Please help with joint minute taking - <a href=\"https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-118-netmod?edit\">https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-118-netmod?edit</a></p>", "time": "2023-11-07T12:11:00Z"}, {"author": "Kent Watsen", "text": "<p>We need an ability to mute the mic!</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T12:26:32Z"}, {"author": "Robert Wilton", "text": "<p>Perhaps another way of stating the question is: Is doing this as an augmentation \"good enough\" to which the answer is probably yes.</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T12:30:49Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "<p>Can someone ask the speaker to raise the mic? It's pointing downwards, instead of their mouth</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T12:31:31Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "<p>As such we don't capture the audio well</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T12:31:48Z"}, {"author": "Joe Clarke", "text": "<p>Still difficult to hear the speaker?</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T12:38:44Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "<p>Sounds fine now, thanks!</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T12:40:42Z"}, {"author": "Bal\u00e1zs Lengyel", "text": "<p>Import min is useful.  Lets included it as a recommendation and warning. I agree with Ken.</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T12:45:51Z"}, {"author": "Joe Clarke", "text": "<p>I, too, am in support of some kind of min signaling.  I was more in favor of strength, but I can live with the warning in 1.1.</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T12:49:46Z"}, {"author": "Bal\u00e1zs Lengyel", "text": "<p>Not needed as backwards compatibility is not even defined for instance data.</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T12:50:19Z"}, {"author": "Per Andersson", "text": "<p>Keeping it as a warning and not enforcing would give implementors freedom to use compatible models if they know what they are doing and can ensure compatibility.</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T12:50:23Z"}, {"author": "Per Andersson", "text": "<p>recommended-min I mean</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T12:50:38Z"}, {"author": "Joe Clarke", "text": "<p>Yep.  I think it's good to keep.</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T12:50:55Z"}, {"author": "Robert Wilton", "text": "<p>@Kent, I see the reason for softening the import min-rev text for 3 reasons:<br>\n(1) Because it is better to keep strict conformance out of YANG modules (i.e., put it into packages instead)<br>\n(2) Because there are cases (with a branched history) where a different version of the file is valid, but would fail a strict min-rev check.<br>\n(3) To get the work done (which was a lowest priority)</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T12:52:01Z"}, {"author": "Per Andersson", "text": "<p>It adds value with recommended-min right away also, letting module authors signal to implementors how to use and what to expect</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T12:52:04Z"}, {"author": "Lou Berger", "text": "<p>would really prefer (non) compatible was in metadata, but can live plan</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T13:19:22Z"}, {"author": "Lou Berger", "text": "<p>...live with plan</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T13:19:42Z"}, {"author": "Robert Wilton", "text": "<p>non-compatible is also in meta-data as the extension statement</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T13:21:08Z"}, {"author": "Lou Berger", "text": "<p>okay, sure...</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T13:22:10Z"}, {"author": "Bal\u00e1zs Lengyel", "text": "<p>I would call it remote-mount</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T13:30:12Z"}, {"author": "Lou Berger", "text": "<p>I agree - had the same comment</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T13:30:28Z"}, {"author": "Lou Berger", "text": "<p>I see this as akin to html caching</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T13:31:36Z"}, {"author": "Robert Wilton", "text": "<p>@Balazs, why is the data immutable.  Rather than labelling it as immutable, pehaps we can label it with what it is (e.g., perhaps it is device capabilities) and infer from that the configuration is immutable.</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T13:47:03Z"}, {"author": "Lou Berger", "text": "<p>or us a tag</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T13:47:30Z"}, {"author": "Lou Berger", "text": "<p>use</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T13:47:36Z"}, {"author": "Bal\u00e1zs Lengyel", "text": "<p>@ Lou, Robert: The basic is to provide the information in design time bit runtime. I as I understand tag is only available in runtime.</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T13:48:32Z"}, {"author": "Bal\u00e1zs Lengyel", "text": "<p>@immutable: I can live with a different name instead of immutable. The name is not so important.</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T13:49:07Z"}, {"author": "Lou Berger", "text": "<p>see section 3 of 8819 - tags are available at design time</p>", "time": "2023-11-07T13:51:38Z"}]