*BPF ISA* Dave Thaler provided an update on what's changed in the BPF ISA I-D since IETF 117. Those changes included (but were not necessarily limited to) the following: - ABI-specific text was moved from this document into a separate ABI [0] document that has yet to be adopted into the WG. - IANA considerations were added to the document: - Permanent: Standards action or IESG Review - Provisional: Specification required - Historical: Specification required - For listing instructions in the IANA registry, it was decided to keep them as a single table with multiple key fields. - New instructions (signed division, signed modulo, move with sign extension, load with sign extension, unconditional byte swap, and 32-bit offset jumps) were added by Yonghong Song. - A few other fixes and improvements provided by Will Hawkins, Jose Marchesi, and others. After this update, the discussion moved to a topic for the BPF ISA document that has yet to be resolved: ISA RFC compliance. Dave pointed out that we still need to specify which instructions in the ISA are MUST, SHOULD, etc, to ensure interoperability. Several different options were presented, including having individual-instruction granularity, following the clang CPU versioning convention, and grouping instructions by logical functionality. We did not obtain consensus at the conference on which was the best way forward. Some of the points raised include the following: - Following the clang CPU versioning labels is somewhat arbitrary. It may not be appropriate to standardize around grouping that is a result of largely organic historical artifacts. - If we decide to do logical grouping, there is a danger of bikeshedding. Looking at anecdotes from industry, some vendors such as Netronome elected to not support particular instructions for performance reasons. Once this compliance question has been resolved, we expect that the ISA document will be ready to move to WG last call. *BPF Memory Model and psABI* Alexei Starovoitov presented the rough outline of a proposal for the BPF Memory Model, and clarified some of his views on the BPF psABI. The main thrust of the proposal was that the BPF MM should reflect that of hardware memory models such as ARM and x86, and be mirrored after the LKMM (Linux Kernel Memory Model), of which language MMs are a strict subset. Existing language MMs do not properly handle control dependencies, and suffer from issues such as OOTA (Out-of-Thin-Air) reads. The presentation outlined the control dependencies proposed for various types of BPF instructions, such as atomics, jumps, etc. Overall the proposal seemed well received, though the issue of whether ABIs should be standardized was again resurfaced. When the WG was formed, the expectation was that such conventions would be captured in one or more Informational documents. This question will likely have to be resolved before an I-D could be adopted. *Conclusion* This was another very productive session. It's clear that we're almost ready to make a WG last call for the ISA document. Hopefully we can resolve the issue of compliance quickly. It's also great to see that the BPF MM and ABI standardization discussions are proceeding. It seemed that we all had rough consensus on the proposal for the BPF MM, so it would be great for us to get some of that written down into the existing ABI document.