[{"author": "Luis Contreras", "text": "<p>We aere ready to start</p>", "time": "2024-03-21T23:31:05Z"}, {"author": "John Scudder", "text": "<p>G\u2019day works universally :-)</p>", "time": "2024-03-21T23:44:56Z"}, {"author": "Julien Meuric", "text": "<p>(deleted)</p>", "time": "2024-03-21T23:45:13Z"}, {"author": "Julien Meuric", "text": "<p>Grazie. Good night to you too, Sergio! ;-)</p>", "time": "2024-03-21T23:46:02Z"}, {"author": "Dave Sinicrope", "text": "<p>Sergio, what was the rfc you referenced when speaking about the pluggable managment</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T00:10:31Z"}, {"author": "Dave Sinicrope", "text": "<p>The transcript said 1994 which wasn\u2019t right</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T00:10:49Z"}, {"author": "Julien Meuric", "text": "<p><span class=\"user-mention silent\" data-user-id=\"897\">Dave Sinicrope</span> <a href=\"#narrow/stream/155-ccamp/topic/ietf-119/near/116439\">said</a>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>The transcript said 1994 which wasn\u2019t right</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>I guess it was 9094.</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T00:13:22Z"}, {"author": "Dave Sinicrope", "text": "<p>Thx!</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T00:13:51Z"}, {"author": "John Scudder", "text": "<p>This is the document I was thinking of that only has figures in SVG: <a href=\"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-yang/\">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-yang/</a></p>", "time": "2024-03-22T00:25:41Z"}, {"author": "Daniel King", "text": "<p>Thanks John.</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T00:26:00Z"}, {"author": "Daniel King", "text": "<p>We always have Adrian, ASCII artist.</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T00:26:18Z"}, {"author": "John Scudder", "text": "<p>As I recall some of the ballot comments were to the effect of \u201cI would object to this if the figure was normative but since it\u2019s just in the examples, fine\u201d.</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T00:27:54Z"}, {"author": "Adrian Farrel", "text": "<p>I'm confused. The ASCII art in the 1.0 document (the one that John reviewed and thought too large) is all fine and needs no attention. Sure, we may have issues with artwork in 2.0, but let's not get 1.0 wrapped around that axle</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T00:41:22Z"}, {"author": "John Scudder", "text": "<p>Since it came up, let me speak in favor of as much as possible, keeping to human-readable terminology and not wall-of-acronyms.</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T00:50:16Z"}, {"author": "John Scudder", "text": "<p>But regardless of the nature of the terminology of course I agree consistency is required.</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T00:53:08Z"}, {"author": "John Scudder", "text": "<p>Dumb question: what\u2019s \u201cFGNM\u201d</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T01:04:09Z"}, {"author": "Daniel King", "text": "<p>Fine Grain Network Management</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T01:04:23Z"}, {"author": "John Scudder", "text": "<p>TY!</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T01:04:31Z"}, {"author": "Daniel King", "text": "<p>YW</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T01:04:35Z"}, {"author": "Daniel King", "text": "<p><a href=\"https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5513.txt\">https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5513.txt</a></p>", "time": "2024-03-22T01:05:12Z"}, {"author": "John Scudder", "text": "<p>I wasn\u2019t setting out to illustrate my cri de coeur for human-readable terminology but if the shoe fits\u2026</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T01:05:25Z"}, {"author": "Daniel King", "text": "<p><span aria-label=\"upside down\" class=\"emoji emoji-1f643\" role=\"img\" title=\"upside down\">:upside_down:</span></p>", "time": "2024-03-22T01:11:38Z"}, {"author": "Julien Meuric", "text": "<p><span class=\"user-mention silent\" data-user-id=\"605\">Daniel King</span> <a href=\"#narrow/stream/155-ccamp/topic/ietf-119/near/116916\">said</a>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Fine Grain Network Management</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Does it imply that CGNM refers to OTUCn ?... <span aria-label=\"wink\" class=\"emoji emoji-1f609\" role=\"img\" title=\"wink\">:wink:</span></p>", "time": "2024-03-22T01:13:20Z"}, {"author": "Daniel King", "text": "<p>:-D</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T01:15:53Z"}, {"author": "Italo Busi", "text": "<p>I agree. With the current status of ITU-T work, now it is the right time to start working on control plane extensions for fgOTN</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T01:19:27Z"}, {"author": "Italo Busi", "text": "<p><span class=\"user-mention silent\" data-user-id=\"688\">Julien Meuric</span> <a href=\"#narrow/stream/155-ccamp/topic/ietf-119/near/116987\">said</a>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><span class=\"user-mention silent\" data-user-id=\"605\">Daniel King</span> <a href=\"#narrow/stream/155-ccamp/topic/ietf-119/near/116916\">said</a>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Fine Grain Network Management</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Does it imply that CGNM refers to OTUCn ?... <span aria-label=\"wink\" class=\"emoji emoji-1f609\" role=\"img\" title=\"wink\">:wink:</span></p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>The fine-grain in FGNM and fgOTN are different. In fgOTN, refers to fine-grained bandwidth in the data plane. In FGNM, refers to fine-grained view of transport network resources. FGNM can therefore be applicable to OTUCn if you need to expose the OTUCn details at the management/control interface</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T01:25:34Z"}, {"author": "Italo Busi", "text": "<p>FYI, G.709 Amd3 has been approved on March 8, 2024. G.709.20 is still under AAP and if everything goes well it can be approved on April 5, 2024<br>\n<a href=\"https://www.itu.int/t/aap/recdetails/10703\">https://www.itu.int/t/aap/recdetails/10703</a><br>\n<a href=\"https://www.itu.int/t/aap/recdetails/10708\">https://www.itu.int/t/aap/recdetails/10708</a></p>", "time": "2024-03-22T01:28:09Z"}, {"author": "Daniel King", "text": "<p>Thanks Chairs, all.</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T01:28:26Z"}, {"author": "Yi Lin", "text": "<p>Thank you all, Bye</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T01:28:37Z"}, {"author": "Julien Meuric", "text": "<p>Bye</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T01:28:42Z"}, {"author": "Italo Busi", "text": "<p>The text of these documents are not yet publicly available but, if we wish, we can send a LS to ITU-T Q11 to get the text<br>\nThe next Q11 meeting is planned in the week of April 8</p>", "time": "2024-03-22T01:28:59Z"}]