@meetecho please pivot speakers cam to presenter
", "time": "2024-03-19T05:37:32Z"}, {"author": "Christian Ams\u00fcss", "text": "thanks
", "time": "2024-03-19T05:37:52Z"}, {"author": "Michael Prorock", "text": "I am sad tobias is not here in person
", "time": "2024-03-19T05:46:55Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "this should have been called: x5c with cwt
", "time": "2024-03-19T05:50:03Z"}, {"author": "Michael Prorock", "text": "orie, that is triggering to me
", "time": "2024-03-19T05:50:47Z"}, {"author": "David Waite", "text": "just x5cwt
", "time": "2024-03-19T05:51:08Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "its supposed to trigger everyone who likes certificates... apparently
", "time": "2024-03-19T05:51:09Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": ":laughing:
", "time": "2024-03-19T05:51:29Z"}, {"author": "Michael Prorock", "text": "i am concerned about the privacy rights that could arise from a bag of CWTs
", "time": "2024-03-19T05:54:36Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": "Could you elaborate Mike?
", "time": "2024-03-19T05:55:21Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "pretty sure he is trolling
", "time": "2024-03-19T05:55:32Z"}, {"author": "Michael Prorock", "text": "completely trolling
", "time": "2024-03-19T05:55:45Z"}, {"author": "Michael Prorock", "text": "apologies
", "time": "2024-03-19T05:55:48Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": ":face_palm:\u200d\u2642\ufe0f I don't get the context when remote. I hate remote.
", "time": "2024-03-19T05:56:18Z"}, {"author": "John Preu\u00df Mattsson", "text": "t and u are quite small
", "time": "2024-03-19T05:56:30Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "^yes
", "time": "2024-03-19T05:56:37Z"}, {"author": "Michael Prorock", "text": "it was a reference to the SPICE BoF that Hannes just survived
", "time": "2024-03-19T05:56:52Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": "Sounds like I missed out on quite an exciting BoF
", "time": "2024-03-19T05:57:27Z"}, {"author": "Matthew Gillmore", "text": "+1
", "time": "2024-03-19T05:58:12Z"}, {"author": "John Preu\u00df Mattsson", "text": "Good to mention that there is already kcwt that can transport a single CWT.
", "time": "2024-03-19T05:58:52Z"}, {"author": "Michael Prorock", "text": "embedding JWT in CWT is... unfortunate.
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:04:59Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": "Exactly!
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:06:02Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "there can be only 1 format.
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:07:12Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "x509 forever.
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:07:18Z"}, {"author": "Michael Prorock", "text": ":heart_eyes:
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:07:30Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "+1 to allowing things to be small
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:08:04Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "The document I mentioned at the mic:
\nhttps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stir-passport-rcd/
\nhttps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stir-certificates-ocsp/
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:10:58Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "in their case, they are still using certs, but perhaps a chat would be helpful anyway.
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:11:35Z"}, {"author": "Matthew Gillmore", "text": "A well understood dispatch with common semantic understanding would be appreciated
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:11:51Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": "Thanks Orie!
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:12:36Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": "Nice Teleport @Mike!
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:13:22Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "and we're using MT's I-D Template!
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:14:36Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": "Falcon would be valuable for SUIT--provided that NIST standardises
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:15:21Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "would be nice to have something from NIST that is small.
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:15:55Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "early allocation?
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:16:28Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "of code points?
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:16:33Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "maybe private space test vectors is better path.
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:19:00Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "Just use a ridiculously large number...
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:21:08Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "(out of the private space)
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:21:19Z"}, {"author": "Michael Prorock", "text": "+1 carsten
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:22:02Z"}, {"author": "Henk Birkholz", "text": "+1
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:27:52Z"}, {"author": "Henk Birkholz", "text": "I'll allow it
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:28:50Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "mental note: mention EDN <<..>>
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:30:54Z"}, {"author": "Michael Prorock", "text": "henk are you in two places at once again
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:31:00Z"}, {"author": "Henk Birkholz", "text": "Hehe, yes
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:31:18Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "I would like to have a python implementation or a way to run the RUST code in python.
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:45:11Z"}, {"author": "G\u00f6ran Selander", "text": "Can we have an indication from the WG about how to proceed?
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:46:04Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "I read the room to be in favor of progressing, but that's for the chairs to diagnose
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:47:22Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "I need code that I can run to test bi-direction X509 <-> c509. Then I can see what my various DRIP certs act as in c509 format.
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:47:39Z"}, {"author": "Ivaylo Petrov", "text": "Goran, is checking this on the ML good enough or should we try to vote during AOB section?
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:47:42Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "Robert: You can run the Rust code from the command line IIRC
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:48:35Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "Getting a quick sense of the room is expedient
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:48:44Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "And personally, I don't like no updated pointers on the cose list about progress in the github. It makes the whole work non-obvious to those that scan the list.
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:49:04Z"}, {"author": "G\u00f6ran Selander", "text": "Ivaylo: We already had a discussion on the mailing list. Would be good with more input.
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:49:18Z"}, {"author": "Ivaylo Petrov", "text": "Ack
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:50:01Z"}, {"author": "Michael Prorock", "text": "+1 orie
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:50:01Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "I will look into running RUST. Never had the need before.
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:50:23Z"}, {"author": "Michael Prorock", "text": "cargo is your fiend
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:50:48Z"}, {"author": "Ivaylo Petrov", "text": "@meetecho please pivot speakers cam to presenter
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:50:59Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "Maybe John can give a short memo how to call the code...
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:51:17Z"}, {"author": "Ivaylo Petrov", "text": "thanks!
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:51:26Z"}, {"author": "Mike Ounsworth", "text": "@John Preu\u00df Mattsson
\nI see:
C509Certificate = [\n TBSCertificate,\n issuerSignatureValue : any,\n]\n\n; The elements of the following group are used in a CBOR Sequence:\nTBSCertificate = (\n c509CertificateType: int,\n certificateSerialNumber: CertificateSerialNumber,\n issuer: Name,\n validityNotBefore: Time,\n validityNotAfter: Time,\n subject: Name,\n subjectPublicKeyAlgorithm: AlgorithmIdentifier,\n subjectPublicKey: any,\n extensions: Extensions,\n issuerSignatureAlgorithm: AlgorithmIdentifier,\n)\nSo the issuerSignatureAlgorithm is inside the TBSCertificate, and not in the outer C509 structure. RFC 5280 4.1.1.2 defines the unsigned copy of the signatureAlgorithm. I personally don't know why X.509 has two; but it seems reasonable to me to treat that as a bug and fix it.
I am asleep on my feet, so to speak, to remember why. Probably explained in 5280.
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:53:06Z"}, {"author": "Mike Ounsworth", "text": "Quick skim; I didn't see it explained.
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:53:32Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "I will try and dig tomorrow and when I find it, I will post to the list.
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:54:09Z"}, {"author": "G\u00f6ran Selander", "text": "(Sorry, lost audio had to restart)
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:54:24Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Fregly", "text": "Was there once a time when two different signers would put signatures into an X.509 cert?
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:54:49Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "you want a poll?
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:55:36Z"}, {"author": "Mike Ounsworth", "text": "No no, there's only one signature value, but two copies of the algorithm name -- the two values MUST match. 5280 is quite clear on that; but doesn't seem to say why.
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:55:54Z"}, {"author": "G\u00f6ran Selander", "text": "Proposal is to move issuerSignatureAlgorithm to the top of TBSCertificate
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:55:56Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "Wait, are you talking issuerSig and subjectsig? Those CAN be different!
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:57:06Z"}, {"author": "Mike Ounsworth", "text": "... what subjectsig?
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:57:25Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "Issuer and subject can use different alg. And sorry, brain is dumb now and I can't remember the right labels.
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:58:05Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "It is 3am for me,,,
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:58:54Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "Channel Jim!
", "time": "2024-03-19T06:59:08Z"}, {"author": "John Preu\u00df Mattsson", "text": "Carstens suggestion sounds good
", "time": "2024-03-19T07:00:05Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "I need to look at this and review 5280 for my opinion and I will post it to the list.
", "time": "2024-03-19T07:00:23Z"}, {"author": "John Preu\u00df Mattsson", "text": "Carstens suggestion is to register 2,3 and make 0,1 reserved
", "time": "2024-03-19T07:00:47Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "For interop, we will end up with all doing it one way.
", "time": "2024-03-19T07:01:43Z"}, {"author": "Robert Moskowitz", "text": "goodnight.
", "time": "2024-03-19T07:01:58Z"}]