That's fine. IPv4 is a legacy protocol anyway, right? :)
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:00:27Z"}, {"author": "Tara Tarakiyee", "text": "Is it DNS?
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:00:40Z"}, {"author": "Marco Davids", "text": ":big_smile:
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:00:47Z"}, {"author": "Gorry Fairhurst", "text": "Does DNS run over IPv6 .... ;-)
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:01:00Z"}, {"author": "Brian Carpenter", "text": "Where's Jen? (I mean the one from The IT Crowd)
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:01:24Z"}, {"author": "Christian Hopps", "text": "ipv6 not working... it's funny, but then sort of not funny too.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:01:59Z"}, {"author": "Anthony Somerset", "text": "Is MeetEcho dual stack?
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:02:17Z"}, {"author": "Brian Carpenter", "text": "meetecho runs pure v6 for me
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:02:28Z"}, {"author": "Abdussalam Baryun", "text": "hi all
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:02:31Z"}, {"author": "Sean Turner", "text": "I mean MeetEcho is working fine.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:02:54Z"}, {"author": "Anthony Somerset", "text": "yeah guessing issue was DNS not working properly via V6 :D
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:03:26Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "Fabio? Oh No... I did not know... I am devastated...
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:06:23Z"}, {"author": "Tara Tarakiyee", "text": ":clap::clap::clap:
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:06:29Z"}, {"author": "Alper Demir", "text": "\ud83c\uddf2\ud83c\uddfe
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:09:02Z"}, {"author": "Sean Turner", "text": "Alper are you in the queue?
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:09:08Z"}, {"author": "Alper Demir", "text": "yes Sean
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:09:19Z"}, {"author": "Sean Turner", "text": "ack
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:09:25Z"}, {"author": "Alper Demir", "text": "how?
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:09:35Z"}, {"author": "Sean Turner", "text": "Did you want to ask a question at this point?
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:09:51Z"}, {"author": "Sean Turner", "text": "Also we recommend that you turn your camera off
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:10:05Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "Alper, please turn off your screen share request and turn off your video and audio until you are called on.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:10:13Z"}, {"author": "David Lawrence", "text": "Technology.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:10:25Z"}, {"author": "Abdussalam Baryun", "text": "it should be removed by control by chair
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:10:50Z"}, {"author": "Brian Carpenter", "text": "@alper demir: mute please!'
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:11:09Z"}, {"author": "Alper Demir", "text": "Ok Brian. Long time no see.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:11:35Z"}, {"author": "David Lawrence", "text": "... about 20 seconds by my reckoning
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:11:53Z"}, {"author": "John Scudder", "text": "24 years ago.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:12:31Z"}, {"author": "Alper Demir", "text": "@David what des reckoning mean?
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:12:37Z"}, {"author": "Alper Demir", "text": "@John Scudder: What was 24 years ago?
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:13:44Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "286 is not \"over half\" of 687....
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:14:04Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "Is it possible to put someone on moderation in meetecho?
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:15:08Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "Because if it isn't possible, perhaps it should be.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:15:20Z"}, {"author": "Marco Davids", "text": "Alper: that the IETF came to AU
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:15:22Z"}, {"author": "Alper Demir", "text": "yes
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:15:23Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "@Alper Demir The open mic time will be announced. Remember, there are over 200 people online in this session and several hundred in the room. Please be considerate.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:15:34Z"}, {"author": "Alper Demir", "text": "Hopefully we will have in Turkey
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:15:45Z"}, {"author": "Alper Demir", "text": "@Pete what about next in Turkiye?
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:16:49Z"}, {"author": "Bill Fenner", "text": "The IETF once again designs a protocol that relies on users being reasonable to each other, and it takes only one bad actor to disrupt everything.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:17:10Z"}, {"author": "Alan DeKok", "text": "The default should not be that anyone remote can override the local speaker. We had the same issue in WG earlier today.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:17:14Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "Alper, you may wish to read the discussions in the mtgvenue (\"Meeting Venue\") list over the last few years to understand how venues are selected. It is possible in the future, but there are lots of factors in venue selection.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:18:09Z"}, {"author": "Alper Demir", "text": "@Billk The IETF designs protocols
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:18:12Z"}, {"author": "Vittorio Bertola", "text": "@Alper, ICANN is going to be in Istanbul later this year. Perhaps you could go there.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:18:26Z"}, {"author": "Alper Demir", "text": "congrats
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:20:00Z"}, {"author": "Alper Demir", "text": "@Vittorio. I would love to. When?
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:20:39Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "@Bill life generally works better if you start by assuming people will be reasonable but have bouncers just in case :) I would not want to operate in an overly strictly formalised protocol either
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:21:30Z"}, {"author": "Vittorio Bertola", "text": "9-14 November. See their website.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:21:52Z"}, {"author": "Alper Demir", "text": "@Vittorio, Adana, and Mersin are great cities in Turkiye too. Please consider ICANN. I am welcome to hest you.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:22:13Z"}, {"author": "Bill Fenner", "text": "@Bron the bouncing protocol was just invented a couple of minutes ago and requires some fine tuning for future deployment ;-)
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:22:14Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "@bill yeah, this is amusing for sure
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:23:02Z"}, {"author": "David Lawrence", "text": "At least Zulip has a Mute User function.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:23:03Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "@Alper Demir Again, be respectful.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:23:05Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "Wait your turn like the rest of us.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:23:14Z"}, {"author": "Jay Daley", "text": "We are kicking him from this meeting
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:23:17Z"}, {"author": "Christian Hopps", "text": "I'm not sure that Alper understands.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:23:20Z"}, {"author": "Jason Livingood", "text": "@Alper Demir - What is the deal man?
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:23:23Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "Alper: you are not doing a good job of convincing this group that Turkiye would be a good place to get work done
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:23:25Z"}, {"author": "Jon Peterson", "text": "Thanks Jay
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:23:27Z"}, {"author": "Matthew Gillmore", "text": "Troll detected
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:23:32Z"}, {"author": "Chris Lemmons", "text": "@alper Please do not unmute until someone calls on you. There's a process for IETF meetings and there will be an opportunity to speak at the mic.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:23:34Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Hawker", "text": "@Jay :clap:
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:23:47Z"}, {"author": "Jim Reid", "text": "Thanks Jay.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:23:54Z"}, {"author": "Jay Daley", "text": "We have never had to do it before so it took some coordinated work behind the scenes. Thanks to Robert and Alex
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:24:13Z"}, {"author": "Chris Lemmons", "text": "@bron I need to push back on the idea that any individual represents Turkey. I would love to see an IETF in Instanbul.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:24:37Z"}, {"author": "Brian Carpenter", "text": "@meetecho - maybe you could implement a \"no interruption\" mode for the future?
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:24:48Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "I'll admit I'm a little disappointed that it was necessary to eject him from the meeting rather than remove his ability to interject.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:24:59Z"}, {"author": "David Somers-Harris", "text": "Same
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:25:18Z"}, {"author": "Jason Livingood", "text": "(feature request)
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:25:33Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Sullivan", "text": "To be fair, if you had someone being disruptive in person, you'd see them out.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:25:46Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "Chris: sure, it's not that any particular individual represents a location, more that if you're saying \"I want it in my location\" while showing that you can't play well with others, that's not a great look
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:25:47Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": ":clap: :clap: :clap:
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:26:10Z"}, {"author": "Abdussalam Baryun", "text": "newcomers should be trained well, so maybe chairs of those session need to look at this problem
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:26:13Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "Andrew: 100%. We are too willing to be nice
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:26:15Z"}, {"author": "David Somers-Harris", "text": "It\u2019s hard to read the room when you\u2019re remote
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:26:54Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "(seriously, well done nomcom, and congratulations to everyone whose name was up on the screen)
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:27:08Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "\"go away and come back when you've learned to not frob random interface buttons when repeatedly told not to\" - sadly if your grasp of English and of what the hell is going on is too poor to interact with a group, then you're not going to be getting much out of being an interactive member of the session anyway
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:27:17Z"}, {"author": "Chris Lemmons", "text": "I'll admit... I assumed my video and mic buttons wouldn't work at the moment. I definitely wouldn't mind a global \"safety\" that prevented me from accidentally interrupting.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:28:10Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "I do think someone should 1:1 chat with him, and find out what he wants; but he's not getting value from being here; and it was costing us a lot of interruption
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:28:24Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "There are a lot more social knobs to turn in person than remotely. A \"please no speaking now\" button for online is probably one needed.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:28:30Z"}, {"author": "Jay Daley", "text": "I tried direct messaging but no response.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:28:47Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Hawker", "text": "Could the queue be closed until it's time to start asking for participants to join?
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:28:56Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Sullivan", "text": "Well, I wasn't arguing that it was _good_ to send someone out; just that the analogy with in-person is in fact to see someone out. But one thing virtual interfaces give us are powers we don't have in ordinary life.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:29:08Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "@Andrew Sullivan Exactly.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:29:28Z"}, {"author": "Juan-Carlos Z\u00fa\u00f1iga", "text": "For the record, Alper may be new but he is based in Turkey, so I guess he was trying to answer the question raised about the big participation we experienced from Turkey. He probably doesn't know the protocol, but I don't think he had bad intentions to disrupt the meeting
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:29:42Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "Unfortunately, the queue being closed doesn't prevent enabling your microphone/video.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:29:55Z"}, {"author": "Vittorio Bertola", "text": "I think he simply did not understand what was going on. To be fair, Lars said something like \"we have 50 unexpected remote participants from Turkey and we would like to hear from them\" and that was one of the times he tried to speak, as I guess he's from that group.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:29:59Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "Juan: he spoke over Vint before that
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:30:09Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "congratulations to Meetecho for building large-meeting UX so seamless that we ended up gaining an accidental troll, I guess?
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:30:16Z"}, {"author": "David Somers-Harris", "text": "I assumed you could only unmute when in front of the queue. It\u2019s only a matter of time we hear or see something both we and the remote person does not want to be seen or heard publicly
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:30:30Z"}, {"author": "Abdussalam Baryun", "text": "there still are many old participants don't know how to use meetecho buttons,,,,so they need to be trained also before presenting by days of hours from their presented sessions
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:30:45Z"}, {"author": "Christian Hopps", "text": "I think a troll is someone that is doing something intentionally .. this doesn't have that feel to me.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:30:58Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "David: running small groups, I would very much NOT like to have that
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:31:01Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "@Juan-Carlos Z\u00fa\u00f1iga @Vittorio Bertola I do think we all understood what was going on. Again, it would have been nice to be able to mute his audio and video in a sticky way until we had a chance to explain.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:31:09Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "(+1 to \"hard close\" feature for the plenary, I'm not sure it'd be worth the effort in WGs, it'd just be something to trip over as a chair)
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:31:11Z"}, {"author": "Brian Carpenter", "text": "No, it was musunderstanding
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:31:17Z"}, {"author": "Jay Daley", "text": "To be clear - his audio and video were muted several times. He was contacted directly and did not respond. We did not act lightly
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:31:46Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "I'm also pretty sure it wasn't malicious (hence \"accidental\")
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:31:54Z"}, {"author": "Juan-Carlos Z\u00fa\u00f1iga", "text": "100% agree @Pete Resnick
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:31:57Z"}, {"author": "Chris Lemmons", "text": "There was a bit of social friction in previous groups as well. In at least two previous groups, the chairs having a \"plz no\" button to block our mics would probably have been useful.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:32:13Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "yeah, not malicious - but also, not compatible with being present in this environment without further education
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:32:24Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "thanks bron for putting it better that i did
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:32:41Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "Hey, I still have those books in my collection!
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:32:58Z"}, {"author": "Chris Lemmons", "text": "Hah, Internet Archeology. :D
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:33:10Z"}, {"author": "Adrian Farrel", "text": "Nah, it's geology
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:33:37Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "I'm glad somebody is doing this! Archives are important :)
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:33:41Z"}, {"author": "Juan-Carlos Z\u00fa\u00f1iga", "text": "Indeed, 30 sec education could have helped.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:33:45Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "Allowing the chairs (or their delegates) to open and close the floor for comments would be a useful feature in general, not just for exceptional circumstances
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:33:48Z"}, {"author": "Robert Carolina", "text": "\"upload blue sheets\" for data - anyone looking at data protection compliance angle?
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:34:02Z"}, {"author": "Chris Lemmons", "text": "Maybe we'll finally get the fabled IETF Protocol Police. :D
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:34:13Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": ":police::police::police:
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:34:37Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "@Robert, blue sheets have always been public record, I believe, and that's agreed to as part of registration.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:35:39Z"}, {"author": "Anthony Somerset", "text": "@Robert Carolina your very participation in IETF is in the public record and i think part of the notewell docs address this, i think we've discussed this before during previous plenaries
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:35:44Z"}, {"author": "Anthony Somerset", "text": "Mike Bishop said:
\n\n\n@Robert, blue sheets have always been public record, I believe, and that's agreed to as part of registration.
\n
and this
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:36:16Z"}, {"author": "Tara Tarakiyee", "text": ":clap::clap::clap:
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:36:26Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "I am looking forward to the deepfake AIs trained on hours of video of me sitting in the chair at the front of rooms
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:36:26Z"}, {"author": "Christian Hopps", "text": "ha
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:36:41Z"}, {"author": "Brian Carpenter", "text": "And any email addresses in ancient blue sheets are either illegible or obsolete.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:36:56Z"}, {"author": "John Scudder", "text": "I\u2019m pretty sure earlier versions of the Meetecho UI required ppl to be called on before they could unmute and it was changed to permissionless by request. \ud83e\udd37\u200d\u2642\ufe0f
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:37:14Z"}, {"author": "Robert Carolina", "text": "So that's a \"Yes\" :-)
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:37:16Z"}, {"author": "Brian Carpenter", "text": "(except possibly kre@munarri.oz.au)
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:37:21Z"}, {"author": "Tara Tarakiyee", "text": "The important question. Now there's a logo, are we going to get OpenPGP tshirts soon?
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:37:27Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "Older blue sheets had email addresses rather than affiliation. I don\u2019t know how useful 15-year-old handwritten address lists are to anyone though
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:37:37Z"}, {"author": "Lucas Pardue", "text": "IETF hats please
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:37:49Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "NGL I looked at the store and was put off by the $30 shopping cost _per t-shirt_.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:38:04Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "I need a chair hat: shaped like an actual chair, that I can take off while I'm correcting people's technical misconceptions
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:38:20Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "and 'splaining stuff
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:38:41Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": ":music: He combed his hair with the leg of a chair :music:
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:38:53Z"}, {"author": "Lucas Pardue", "text": "Like this https://www.etsy.com/au/listing/837012781/foam-party-hats-sofa-hat-home-deco-party
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:39:01Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "my Melbourne Cup outfit; solved
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:39:24Z"}, {"author": "Sean Turner", "text": "@Abdussalam Baryun: Please note there is under the meeting network and technology button a link for MeetEcho: https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/technology/meetecho-guide-participant/
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:39:46Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "now that's a chair
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:39:51Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "Having the terminal room close to the action helped this time.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:39:59Z"}, {"author": "Christian Hopps", "text": "If we put back no interrupt it should be a toggle I think.. It's good to replicate the in-room experience which allows for quick back and forth which strict queueing doesn't
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:40:28Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "yes for sure
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:41:21Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "Meanwhile - getting emails about AD staff being updated; it's like a mass firing - being in a room with HR while security locks your access cards and turns off your email account!
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:42:33Z"}, {"author": "Alex Chernyakhovsky", "text": "Alper appears to be sending email to 119attendees@ietf.org that ... does not make sense to me?
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:42:45Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "except we already said goodbye to Francesca earlier :)
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:42:49Z"}, {"author": "Francesca Palombini", "text": ":wave: but I am still here :)
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:43:19Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "Could the people with the APs / Hotspots
\n called \"Siksee\", \"hotspot\", \"_My_Bus_Phone\" (Apple) and \"Tommys Second Sammie\" (Samsung) please turn off your radios / at least not squat on channels 149 - 161?
Could the people with the APs / Hotspots
\n called \"Siksee\", \"hotspot\", \"_My_Bus_Phone\" (Apple) and \"Tommys Second Sammie\" (Samsung) please turn off your radios / at least not squat on channels 149 - 161?
Let's all try to join their networks!
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:45:57Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "@Alex, I get the impression he is responding to e-mails sent to the list as if they were directly addressed to him.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:46:07Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "@Francesca we still love you
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:46:52Z"}, {"author": "Alex Chernyakhovsky", "text": "That is a good theory, but the responses also ... are consistent with the behavior we saw in the plenary
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:46:58Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "you're welcome in our sessions any time
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:47:15Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "(just don't speak when it's not your turn!)
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:47:34Z"}, {"author": "Francesca Palombini", "text": "<3
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:48:05Z"}, {"author": "Francesca Palombini", "text": "I will do my best! :)
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:48:19Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "it's the glorious future, you can use emoji\ud83e\ude75
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:48:37Z"}, {"author": "David Somers-Harris", "text": ":astonished:
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:49:13Z"}, {"author": "Tara Tarakiyee", "text": "clap clap clap
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:49:15Z"}, {"author": "Francesca Palombini", "text": "well, I did try, but the \"handwave\" translated into an actual wave, so... :D
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:49:19Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "Practically speaking, it's much easier to convince an employer to pay a registration fee for something that assists your work than it is to convince them to make a major donation.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:49:23Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "\"Hey icann, got any money so we don't goto the gnu name system?\" :-)
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:55:09Z"}, {"author": "Anthony Somerset", "text": "the problem is always the DNS!
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:55:12Z"}, {"author": "Chris Lemmons", "text": "I tried sending my boss a picture of my registration with $2B in the \"donation\" field. He said \"not approved\", though. Alas. :D
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:56:32Z"}, {"author": "David Lawrence", "text": "I'm going to rename my phone to Warren's Googly Phone
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:57:35Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "(idly wondering how much github traffic runs over NAT64 somewhere)
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:58:28Z"}, {"author": "Michael Richardson", "text": "So, are we gonna sell our 33.x prefix for fun and profit?
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:59:12Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "It's always amazed me that we run public IPv4s for every client here. Essentially no one else does that.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:59:13Z"}, {"author": "Tara Tarakiyee", "text": "\"frightened and confused - the story of ipv6\"
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:59:17Z"}, {"author": "Tommy Jensen", "text": "Is naming your device after innocent people and running noisy hotspots going to become the new thing? -- not the Tommy you're thinking of
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:59:38Z"}, {"author": "Michael Richardson", "text": "@brian, it would be awesome to know that github question. I have lots that do NAT64.
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:59:41Z"}, {"author": "Alex Chernyakhovsky", "text": "@Mike Bishop I remember when some educational networks did that. They've stopped in the last 10 years though :(
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:59:49Z"}, {"author": "Anthony Somerset", "text": "no objections with RFC1918 for general v4 access at all
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:59:50Z"}, {"author": "Marco Davids", "text": "So, what is now ietf-nat64 SSID will be ietf SSID, is that it?
", "time": "2024-03-20T07:59:50Z"}, {"author": "Jim Fenton", "text": "I had a problem with a VPN once that didn't expect a non-NATted v4 network. It was a good test for the VPN vendor.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:00:10Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "Does nat64 currently do DHCP 108?
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:00:17Z"}, {"author": "Marco Davids", "text": "yes
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:00:23Z"}, {"author": "Michael Richardson", "text": "I have a public v4 on my desktop (as part of a /28 that my office has). Webex and a few other things just do NOT WORK if they aren't NAT44.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:00:52Z"}, {"author": "Jim Fenton", "text": "Seems like we have gone full circle on NAT.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:01:49Z"}, {"author": "David Lawrence", "text": "but pdf is teh devil so
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:03:26Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "NTP was the first published in Postscript, if I am not mistaken.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:04:03Z"}, {"author": "Michael Richardson", "text": "Jim Fenton said:
\n\n\nSeems like we have gone full circle on NAT.
\n
What do you mean? What is the other side of the circle?
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:05:11Z"}, {"author": "Jim Fenton", "text": "OK, full circle was the wrong analogy
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:06:01Z"}, {"author": "Rob Austein", "text": "ntp was a special case, it was accept it in postscript or have no spec :)
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:08:13Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "There's a bit of an arc in that we've gone from NATing the v4 to NATing the v6 address.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:08:21Z"}, {"author": "Timothy Holborn", "text": "thankyou for being mindful of those whom have been lost to the community.. it is a consideration of importance in many areas of open-starndards work, but the first time i've seen a group actually do something about it, is here, in IETF... :pray:
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:08:34Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "\"An IETFer of magnitude\"! I like that!
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:08:40Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "@Jason, they did give me a 3XL at check-in. I think I wrote that in a comment field, perhaps?
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:08:45Z"}, {"author": "Brian Carpenter", "text": "Over on the 6man list there is a very hot discussion of NPTv6 update
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:08:53Z"}, {"author": "Lucas Pardue", "text": "They look like hard hats
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:09:30Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "It\u2019s an Australian 3XL which is equivalent to an American 2XL
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:09:38Z"}, {"author": "Lucas Pardue", "text": "Do the safety dance
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:09:54Z"}, {"author": "Tara Tarakiyee", "text": "Can confirm the big dots are more visible for remote
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:09:59Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "I have an XL for this IETF, which at previous IETFs has been reasonable, and it's a tent!
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:10:05Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "The rending of the dots.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:10:13Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": ":clap:
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:10:18Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "tried to trade it in for an L, but they were fresh out
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:10:19Z"}, {"author": "Sean Turner", "text": "Hi DEB!
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:10:31Z"}, {"author": "Michael Richardson", "text": "Wow. That application/matter-transfer RFC finally got deployed!
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:10:44Z"}, {"author": "Tara Tarakiyee", "text": ":clap:
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:12:25Z"}, {"author": "Karen O'Donoghue", "text": "@Pete Resnick - it was available in postscript but had to be produced in ASCII as well... (catching up on chat)
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:14:27Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "Tough crowd :)
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:14:27Z"}, {"author": "Michael Richardson", "text": "Michael Richardson said:
\n\n\nWow. That application/matter-transfer RFC finally got deployed!
\n
matter-transport/sentient-life-form ... RFC1437.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:15:23Z"}, {"author": "Mirjam Kuehne", "text": ":clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:16:18Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": ":clap: :clap: :clap:
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:16:20Z"}, {"author": "Tara Tarakiyee", "text": ":clap: :clap: :clap:
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:16:28Z"}, {"author": "Chris Lemmons", "text": ":all the claps:
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:16:30Z"}, {"author": "Brian Carpenter", "text": ":clap: :clap: :clap:
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:16:40Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "i feel like Deb's photo is missing a redaction
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:19:23Z"}, {"author": "Deb Cooley", "text": "LOL
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:19:42Z"}, {"author": "Lucas Pardue", "text": "Remote participation would be easier if people didn't scarf the equipment
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:21:42Z"}, {"author": "Tommy Jensen", "text": "It's true we do try to minimize resource consumption here
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:22:48Z"}, {"author": "Christian Hopps", "text": "I feel like this could be useful for anyone not just SDOs
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:24:24Z"}, {"author": "Lucas Pardue", "text": "Tl;DR Use QUIC
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:25:04Z"}, {"author": "Chris Lemmons", "text": "The \"obsoleted by\" tag could potentially be a bit bigger.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:25:13Z"}, {"author": "Christian Hopps", "text": "IETF Table of Contents :)
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:25:22Z"}, {"author": "Tara Tarakiyee", "text": "IETF Configurator tool
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:25:42Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Sullivan", "text": "It seems more like the request is for the picture on the box of Lego.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:26:18Z"}, {"author": "Alexis Rossi", "text": "@Chris Lemmons It will be bigger!
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:26:28Z"}, {"author": "Tommy Jensen", "text": "IETF Annotated Code (in the legal sense)
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:26:31Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "Put all the building blocks in your vector db and Just the IETF model :D Has anybody already done that?
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:26:35Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "iirc mnot was building something kind of like this once upon a time
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:26:40Z"}, {"author": "Tara Tarakiyee", "text": "I'm afraid to ask, is this yang?
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:26:43Z"}, {"author": "Chris Lemmons", "text": "I have had to locate RFCs while dangerously under-caffeinated. Pictures wouldn't hurt. :D
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:26:54Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "everything is yang :D
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:26:59Z"}, {"author": "Dhruv Dhody", "text": "This came before as well for IOt and we did some work on the IETF website
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:27:00Z"}, {"author": "Lucas Pardue", "text": "I'd prefer IKEA style instructions, with on site catering including meatballs and hotdogs
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:27:08Z"}, {"author": "Tommy Jensen", "text": "... ok and now the annotated code joke was just brought to the mic basically
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:27:24Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "RFC assistant :)
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:27:31Z"}, {"author": "Chris Lemmons", "text": "@Alexis YAY!!!
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:27:35Z"}, {"author": "Chris Box", "text": "Nick Sullivan presented RFCGPT in RASPRG today. It sounds like it may be able to help in locating relevant RFCs for a particular topic.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:28:08Z"}, {"author": "Lucas Pardue", "text": "AIETF plz
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:28:17Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "Pretty sure I\u2019ve seen both meatballs and hotdogs at IETF snack breaks in the past
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:28:26Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "Support for translation to American?
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:28:57Z"}, {"author": "Tommy Jensen", "text": "\n\nAIETF plz
\n
This took way too long for me to get
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:29:09Z"}, {"author": "Donald Eastlake", "text": "To find RFCs for a protocol, you go to the IANA registry and it will point to them.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:29:35Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "Honestly, just getting the transcription in the Meetecho screen would be a huge step forward.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:29:42Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "Or is it there and I just can't find it?
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:29:57Z"}, {"author": "Mark Nottingham", "text": "", "time": "2024-03-20T08:29:58Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "mike: it is in the meetecho screen (CC button)
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:30:03Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "thanks mark!
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:30:14Z"}, {"author": "David Lawrence", "text": "We have a lot of fast speakers? Huh.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:30:17Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "Thank you!
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:30:20Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Hawker", "text": "Use-cases for protocols and RFCs IMO would be beneficial, especially for those who may be new to standards development and aren't technically (as in tech) familiar.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:30:36Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "That's called HotRFC.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:31:30Z"}, {"author": "Mark Nottingham", "text": "If folks want to add tags to RFC.fyi, it\u2019s super easy; talk to me!
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:31:48Z"}, {"author": "Tara Tarakiyee", "text": "I think working group charters could be improved to include more contextual and relevance information to situate the work.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:31:59Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "(Also, the appearance of Eric Rescorla in the transcript at that point is hilarious.)
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:32:11Z"}, {"author": "Tommy Jensen", "text": "\n\n\n
Amazing. If this had precedent trees showing obsoletions/updates, it would change my life
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:32:18Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "(and i have to say the live steno is significantly better than the automated captioning I have experience with, so while automated translations of that stenography stream might be useful, the first mile should be steno for the foreseeable future.)
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:32:18Z"}, {"author": "Mark Nottingham", "text": "Tommy: there\u2019s an issue for that.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:32:46Z"}, {"author": "Michael StJohns", "text": "Maybe part of alldispatch?
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:32:49Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "@Christopher Hawker use case descriptions can be good but history seems to show reaching consensus on those so they can be documented in an RFC takes a lot of effort that's better used elsewhere
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:32:51Z"}, {"author": "Gorry Fairhurst", "text": "+1 It's so very easy, please do ask for a HotRFC talk next meeting!
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:33:01Z"}, {"author": "Tommy Jensen", "text": "\n\nTommy: there\u2019s an issue for that.
\n
<3
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:33:17Z"}, {"author": "Tara Tarakiyee", "text": "Please don't rely on ML translation purely, many similar sized conferences are capable of providing simultaneous translation
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:33:31Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "@meetecho, now that I've found the transcription pane.... It's difficult to scroll back, as it constantly resets to the bottom. IIRC, we've previously had that issue with the chat.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:33:41Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Sullivan", "text": "Simultaneous translation provided by live humans at the scale of the IETF meeting is quite expensive.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:34:19Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "@Tara Tarakiyee Those conferences often have much bigger budgets than ours.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:34:19Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "Ah, there's a \"scroll\" checkbox way, way to the right of the settings.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:34:21Z"}, {"author": "Tara Tarakiyee", "text": "+1 Mike, especially when you're trying to catch up on notetaking
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:34:21Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "I wonder what airport security thinks about boomerangs
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:35:17Z"}, {"author": "Tara Tarakiyee", "text": "@Pete: I would dispute that.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:35:20Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "Boomerangs are weapons.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:35:36Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "Webex, Zoom, and Teams, all provide reasonably good machine translation/transcription for free
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:36:10Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "ah, \"we will send...\"
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:36:12Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "if only we weren't using a shitty bespoke thing
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:36:16Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "Also, boomerang is a term for someone returning to a role after an absence, which isn't exactly appropriate.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:36:18Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "Does giving people boomerangs symbolize that they\u2019re going to come back?
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:36:57Z"}, {"author": "Chris Lemmons", "text": "Or alternatively, a \"we'll meet again\". :)
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:37:02Z"}, {"author": "Simon Romano", "text": "@Richard Shitty is perhaps a bit too harsh, isn't it?
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:37:13Z"}, {"author": "Ted Hardie", "text": "Baby lag is brutal
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:38:03Z"}, {"author": "Lucas Pardue", "text": "Not fair that Dhruv always look so suave in his pictures.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:38:11Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "@Simon - Yes, sorry.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:38:14Z"}, {"author": "Chris Box", "text": "IABopen is a great idea
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:38:38Z"}, {"author": "Tara Tarakiyee", "text": "Don't want to go to the mic, just wanted to say I really enjoyed the IAB session earlier today, thank you all for your hard work on that
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:40:35Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "+1 ted
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:40:50Z"}, {"author": "Simon Romano", "text": "@Richard BTW I'll ne glad to discuss with you about the tings that we're doing with advanced real-time automated transcription, if you're interested in that. I believe we have something to say on the topic.
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:40:55Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "that was an excellent session, worth going back to watch
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:41:06Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "Vanessa is 100% awesome
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:41:07Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Farrell", "text": "that IAB open talk would've been a great plenary talk
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:41:10Z"}, {"author": "Adrian Farrel", "text": "Bring back the technical plenary!
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:41:16Z"}, {"author": "Dhruv Dhody", "text": "@lucas - blush
", "time": "2024-03-20T08:42:02Z"}]