minutes-119-sidrops-202403190530-00.md

Notes for SIDROPS @ IETF119

Minute taker: Krishnaswamy, Chris Morrow
(Agenda for tracking current place in the meeting)
1) Agenda bashing and Chair's slides - [5 minutes]

Geoff: Requested the meeting to be in timezone that is suitable for most
of the folks around the world.
Russ: It is challenging and should use mailing alias.

2) Sriram Kotikalapudi - [5 minutes]
ASPA Verification Draft Update
doc:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-verification/
slides:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/119/materials/slides-119-sidrops-update-on-aspa-based-as-path-verification/

No questions from participants

3) Job Snijders - [5 minutes]
A profile for Signed Prefix Lists for Use in RPKI
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sidrops-rpki-prefixlist/

No questions from participants

4) Job Snijders - [8 minutes]
RPKI Validation Reconsidered
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-spaghetti-sidrops-rpki-validation-update/

Ties de Kock: I agree with algorithm. : RPs from different implmentation
to behave in same way.
Job: Yes

Ben: Existing policy to be updated.
Job: Ack

Geoff: This proposal is good way to take it forward

Rudiger: CAs are advised try to avoid the problem.
Job: CAs are already trying to avoid the problem and noted

5) Job Snijders - [8 minutes]
Guidance to Avoid Carrying RPKI Validation States in Transitive BGP Path
Attributes
(Draft to be published)

Jared: BMP stations connect/reconnect will create BGP updtes like soft
refresh out. Should we move this GROW WG
Job:

Ben: Agree with the problem. Implmentations does have rute refresh
updates
Job: Ack

Rudiger: Churn could be due to bad implmentations at the edge.
Job: Ack

6) Zhuotao Liu - [8 minutes]
FC-BGP Protocol Specification
doc:
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-sidrops-wang-fcbgp-protocol-00.html

slides:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/119/materials/slides-119-sidrops-fc-bgp-protocol-specification/

Rudiger: No new rules for path selecton is needed.
Zhuotao: Ack

7) Tom Harrison - [8 minutes]
BGP Manifest Number Handling
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-harrison-sidrops-manifest-numbers/

Rob: Manifest is modeled
Tom: Ack

Ben: As the same problem. Doesn't have the bad side effect as proposed.
Manifest approach
Tom: Ack

8) Jia Zhang - [5 minutes]
Enhancing Route Origin Validation by Aggregating Validated ROA Payloads

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-zhang-sidrops-vrp-aggregation-00.txt

Jeff Haas: More specific are usual problem to mitigate
Jia: Ack

Job: Agree with Jeff commnets. Aggegartion can bring complications.
Jia: Ack

9) Li Chen - [5 minutes]
Signed SAVNET Peering Information object
doc: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-sidrops-sispi/
slides:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/119/materials/slides-119-sidrops-signed-savnet-peering-information-sispi-object/

No questions from participants

10) Di Ma - [5 minutes]
Reference Implementation of how RPSTIR2 rapidly ascertains RPKI Signed
objects to be validated during the transition of syncronization with
global repositories