[{"author": "Jon Geater", "text": "<p>Thank you!</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:00:34Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Inacio", "text": "<p>another note taker to help AJ would be greatly appreciated.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:00:57Z"}, {"author": "A.J. Stein", "text": "<p>Register that statement somewhere, I don't get the \"he's great\" unqualified that often.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:04:36Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>mettecho: speaker?</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:05:50Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>meetecho: i meant</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:06:02Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>Thanks</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:06:13Z"}, {"author": "Deb Cooley", "text": "<p>Steve Lasker</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:07:13Z"}, {"author": "Deb Cooley", "text": "<p>@Carsten is there an issue?</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:07:49Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Inacio", "text": "<p>@deb just pointing the camera to the speaker from the chairs.  it got handled.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:08:27Z"}, {"author": "Deb Cooley", "text": "<p>ok, perfect</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:08:44Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>Chairs, do you want to use the meetecho timer?</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:23:36Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Inacio", "text": "<p>I'll add it in 2 minutes</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:23:55Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>Just a suggestion</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:24:04Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Inacio", "text": "<p>I'm watching the time manually currently.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:24:12Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>OK, but the speaker doesn't see that -- which they do for the meetecho timer</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:24:38Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Inacio", "text": "<p>@carsten  - it's almost like you know Henk.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:25:04Z"}, {"author": "Steve Lasker", "text": "<p>If folks have questions, please \"join the queue\" and we'll pause to answer.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:25:08Z"}, {"author": "A.J. Stein", "text": "<p>Chairs, ask speakers to identify in mic please!!!</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:27:14Z"}, {"author": "A.J. Stein", "text": "<p>Who just spoke?</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:27:18Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>Brendan</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:27:23Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>Please see queue</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:27:28Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Inacio", "text": "<p>will do</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:27:31Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>Justin is lined up after him</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:27:46Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>key point is to check the hash, regardless of where you get the content from</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:27:53Z"}, {"author": "A.J. Stein", "text": "<p>Was that Brendan? Man, my eyes are bad!</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:28:00Z"}, {"author": "A.J. Stein", "text": "<p>Thanks, everybody.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:28:04Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>The video is bad</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:28:10Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Inacio", "text": "<p>yes, still Brednan Moran</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:28:13Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>(Actually, the lighting is bad.)</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:28:29Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>in this case, the top draft (COSE Receipts) has a detached payload that is a merkle root (which is a hash)... the bottom draft \"hash envelope\" can be either attached or detached... but either way... you better confirm that hash matches the content you are trying to secure.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:30:31Z"}, {"author": "A.J. Stein", "text": "<p>OK, who off mic asked about forgery? Chairs, help me out.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:30:56Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Inacio", "text": "<p>Brendan</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:31:08Z"}, {"author": "A.J. Stein", "text": "<p>Thanks, I don't have multiple screens so I can't see and type at the same time.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:31:31Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Inacio", "text": "<p>no worries</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:31:40Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>its not too late to add Holders and Presentations.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:35:31Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>(snark)</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:35:41Z"}, {"author": "A.J. Stein", "text": "<p>Oh nevermid, I remove from notes.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:36:02Z"}, {"author": "A.J. Stein", "text": "<p>I couldn't tell that time you were serious or not before the snark message.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:36:16Z"}, {"author": "A.J. Stein", "text": "<p>For next batch of notes: is this 119 recap or did we transition to the next section?</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:38:48Z"}, {"author": "Steve Lasker", "text": "<p>It's evolution of SCRAPI, i wouldn't frame it limited to 119 recap.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:39:54Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Inacio", "text": "<p>@AJ - we did 119 recap &amp; arch</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:40:30Z"}, {"author": "A.J. Stein", "text": "<p>Thanks I figured it out, we rush through the previous bit.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:40:34Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Inacio", "text": "<p>the slides were a bit confused in order, so we just went with it</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:40:49Z"}, {"author": "A.J. Stein", "text": "<p>Meetecho believes in async registration of slides.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:43:35Z"}, {"author": "A.J. Stein", "text": "<p>I believe the other WGs call it \"a festival of Hannes\" and sticker ideas have been presented in some other Zulip channel. I personally love the idea.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T20:55:49Z"}, {"author": "Jon Geater", "text": "<p><span aria-label=\"big smile\" class=\"emoji emoji-1f604\" role=\"img\" title=\"big smile\">:big_smile:</span></p>", "time": "2024-07-25T21:04:50Z"}, {"author": "Ned Smith", "text": "<p>How do you redact it from the robot who trained an AI model with it?</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T21:05:19Z"}, {"author": "A.J. Stein", "text": "<p><span aria-label=\"laughing\" class=\"emoji emoji-1f606\" role=\"img\" title=\"laughing\">:laughing:</span></p>", "time": "2024-07-25T21:05:38Z"}, {"author": "Steve Lasker", "text": "<p>Ned, great question. Robots work from instructions. While I don't want to speak beyond my understanding of vCons, the premise is the robots are reading the information to know who has concented and redacted their consent.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T21:07:22Z"}, {"author": "Michael Prorock", "text": "<p>+1 to SECDIR early review</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T21:12:20Z"}, {"author": "Ned Smith", "text": "<p><span class=\"user-mention silent\" data-user-id=\"4044\">Steve Lasker</span> <a href=\"#narrow/stream/300-scitt/topic/ietf-120/near/129810\">said</a>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Ned, great question. Robots work from instructions. While I don't want to speak beyond my understanding of vCons, the premise is the robots are reading the information to know who has concented and redacted their consent.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>A SCITT system is itself a robot, but I think the use of \"robot\" means something else. The function of tracking vCons is part of the SCITT automation. I assume the use of robot implies there is another stakeholder besides the humans in the example. That means the protocol for redaction involves all of the stakeholders. But the explantion seems to ignore the robot stakeholder. The point being the protocol has to be realistic / implementable. Which is why I threw in the AI training possibility.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T21:13:21Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>+1 just do it</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T21:15:25Z"}, {"author": "Kathleen Moriarty", "text": "<p>I agree with Hannes</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T21:15:36Z"}, {"author": "A.J. Stein", "text": "<p>Poll online, not hands raised.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T21:15:43Z"}, {"author": "A.J. Stein", "text": "<p>Or, perhaps tell me what you see for notes.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T21:15:48Z"}, {"author": "A.J. Stein", "text": "<p>Thanks, Chris.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T21:15:53Z"}, {"author": "Michael Prorock", "text": "<p>MANY hands</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T21:16:14Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Inacio", "text": "<p>@AJ put down at least 8 hands raised in room for having read the document</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T21:16:43Z"}, {"author": "A.J. Stein", "text": "<p>You dare invoke governments in this? Hard pass! (to be clear: snark)</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T21:21:19Z"}, {"author": "A.J. Stein", "text": "<p>Thank you, Henk, I can quickly support it on mic, that is helpful.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T21:23:36Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Inacio", "text": "<p>comment in the room was that the charter length was Henk's fault</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T21:25:53Z"}, {"author": "Steve Lasker", "text": "<p>Thank you remote folks...</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T21:27:29Z"}, {"author": "A.J. Stein", "text": "<p><span class=\"user-mention silent\" data-user-id=\"1195\">Christopher Inacio</span> <a href=\"#narrow/stream/300-scitt/topic/ietf-120/near/129879\">said</a>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>comment in the room was that the charter length was Henk's fault</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>So we want that on record ...? I totally heard that clearly but didn't keep it in. haha</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T21:27:36Z"}]