[{"author": "Will Law", "text": "<p>Yes, Victor raised the issue</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:25:28Z"}, {"author": "Alan Frindell", "text": "<p>I would maybe ask any moq participants closer to the media side to chime in</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:25:37Z"}, {"author": "Will Law", "text": "<p><a href=\"https://github.com/w3c/webtransport/issues/559\">https://github.com/w3c/webtransport/issues/559</a></p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:26:04Z"}, {"author": "David Schinazi", "text": "<p>Whoo! Bikesheds!</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:33:15Z"}, {"author": "Alex Chernyakhovsky", "text": "<p>Are we sponsored by Big Shed now?</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:33:41Z"}, {"author": "Will Law", "text": "<p>+1 for applicationProtocol or applicationDefinedProtocol</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:37:11Z"}, {"author": "David Schinazi", "text": "<p>Is there a single word that's not overloaded in networking? :P</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:38:01Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Bernier", "text": "<p>;-)</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:38:26Z"}, {"author": "Magnus Westerlund", "text": "<p>There are layers all the way down.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:38:27Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "<p>And applications all the way up</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:38:40Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "<p>The applicable scope of ALPN is already messed up. But here, I think we do mean the same thing.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:38:51Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "<p>From QUIC's point of view, WebTransport is an application-layer protocol...</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:39:03Z"}, {"author": "David Schinazi", "text": "<p>Running h3 over WebTransport would be fun. That's a MASQUE amount of turtles</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:39:12Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "<p>I'll say again, I have seen an HTTP over Websockets library.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:39:41Z"}, {"author": "Juliusz Chroboczek", "text": "<p>Nobody can compete with MASQUE.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:39:45Z"}, {"author": "Alex Chernyakhovsky", "text": "<p><span class=\"user-mention silent\" data-user-id=\"29\">David Schinazi</span> <a href=\"#narrow/stream/132-webtrans/topic/ietf-120/near/130058\">said</a>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Running h3 over WebTransport would be fun. That's a MASQUE amount of turtles</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>but _why_</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:39:47Z"}, {"author": "Alex Chernyakhovsky", "text": "<p><span class=\"user-mention silent\" data-user-id=\"147\">Mike Bishop</span> <a href=\"#narrow/stream/132-webtrans/topic/ietf-120/near/130060\">said</a>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>I'll say again, I have seen an HTTP over Websockets library.</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>but _why_</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:40:03Z"}, {"author": "Magnus Westerlund", "text": "<p>Call it WUP, Webtrans using protocol</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:40:15Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "<p>Actual no opinion is don't vote.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:42:02Z"}, {"author": "Juliusz Chroboczek", "text": "<p>Meetecho, if you have a free hand, perhaps you could pan over the room for use remoties?</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:53:31Z"}, {"author": "Juliusz Chroboczek", "text": "<p>Meetecho, you're a good friend :-)</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:54:18Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "<p>:D</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:54:51Z"}, {"author": "Lucas Pardue", "text": "<p>didn't lose me, lgtm</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:55:25Z"}, {"author": "Lucas Pardue", "text": "<p>regarding implementations of WT over H2, the thing that worries me is library interest</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T22:58:38Z"}, {"author": "Juliusz Chroboczek", "text": "<p>Exactly my thoughts.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T23:02:57Z"}, {"author": "Juliusz Chroboczek", "text": "<p>I too am uncomfortable with DATA_RECVD.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T23:03:12Z"}, {"author": "Nidhi Jaju", "text": "<p>+1 to using the same name</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T23:04:28Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "<p>Ah, I was misunderstanding from the slides: It's currently \"Data Recvd\" and is changing. The new proposal is \"All data committed\" for WebTransport generically.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T23:05:16Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "<p>Over QUIC, that corresponds to the Data Recvd state; over H2 that corresponds to writing everything to the TCP socket.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T23:06:59Z"}, {"author": "Juliusz Chroboczek", "text": "<p>Does anyone know how much overhead does h3 bring?</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T23:07:27Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "<p>Ah, and I previously commented on the Data Recvd PR. Not all QUIC stacks expose the Data Recvd state to the application.</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T23:09:38Z"}, {"author": "Francesca Palombini", "text": "<p>thanks all!</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T23:28:38Z"}, {"author": "Juliusz Chroboczek", "text": "<p>Thanks!</p>", "time": "2024-07-25T23:28:46Z"}]