[{"author": "Alvaro Retana", "text": "

https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-121-rasprg?edit

", "time": "2024-11-08T09:35:53Z"}, {"author": "Alvaro Retana", "text": "

That's the link to the notes.

", "time": "2024-11-08T09:36:13Z"}, {"author": "Ryo Yanagida", "text": "

just an FYI: I generally only take notes of the discussions after the talk

", "time": "2024-11-08T09:37:09Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "

The camera is this room seems to track the speaker pretty well

", "time": "2024-11-08T09:38:39Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "

It's manual tracking, and it was a bit of a chase :D

", "time": "2024-11-08T09:39:01Z"}, {"author": "Shawn Ngiap", "text": "

@andrew, i believe it's manual?

", "time": "2024-11-08T09:39:04Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "

In which case, great job!

", "time": "2024-11-08T09:39:43Z"}, {"author": "Ignacio Castro", "text": "

More standards related analysis from Justus here: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=emjU8rcAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=ao

", "time": "2024-11-08T09:54:38Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

Those distances look ... wrong

", "time": "2024-11-08T09:58:53Z"}, {"author": "St\u00e9phane Bortzmeyer", "text": "

Why using the first name to infer the gender? When you register, IETF asks for your gender.

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:14:05Z"}, {"author": "Ignacio Castro", "text": "

afaik that info is not public, only available in aggreegated stats

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:15:14Z"}, {"author": "Dhruv Dhody", "text": "

yup, we say - Your gender data will not be made public. We will use the gender data you provide when communicating directly with you about this meeting, and for the publication of aggregate statistics including longitudinal analysis. Please see our Privacy Statement for general details on our handling of your data.

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:15:49Z"}, {"author": "Bumblefudge", "text": "

or... china

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:17:45Z"}, {"author": "Alvaro Retana", "text": "

@will: The queue is closed, sorry. Can you please post your question on the chat or send it to the list? Thanks!

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:18:08Z"}, {"author": "Will Earp", "text": "

No problem

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:18:18Z"}, {"author": "Dhruv Dhody", "text": "

Is there any publicly available data maybe a matrix that ranks countries based on the difficulty of obtaining a visa?

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:20:32Z"}, {"author": "Sarah Jennings", "text": "

I imagine on the IETF data for visas, the misalignment between residence and nationality would make that analysis difficult - speaking as someone who travels on a different passport to my country of residence

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:20:45Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

@Sarah, I guess that's always going to be the dominating factor, because I suspect many IETFers have multiple passports

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:22:07Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "

As a GitHub sceptic, it\u2019s good to see that its use is on the margins. :-)

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:28:41Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

Bleh, I hate charts + keys with colours. I really suck at matching the colour to the name.

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:29:40Z"}, {"author": "Jaime Jimenez", "text": "

Note that issues on tracker can pertain to the draft or to the prototype implementaiton.

\n

Compared to emails, normally github-issues are more specific and often actionable, email discussions are sometimes more higher level instead. Also used for coordination, announcements, etc

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:30:20Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

Or that there's more bikeshedding :P

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:30:58Z"}, {"author": "Jaime Jimenez", "text": "

That's what I said, no? :D

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:31:17Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

I was responding to Ryo's comment that more interaction meant more collaboration

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:31:44Z"}, {"author": "Jaime Jimenez", "text": "

Hahaha, sorry then. I thought you meant the mailing list. Funny coincidence then.

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:33:21Z"}, {"author": "Ignacio Castro", "text": "

Both are possible though: greater cost of doing things at the IETF together with greater representation

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:35:07Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

It would be interesting to see the change in number of documents in flight

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:35:32Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

Because that would signal whether the process was bottle-necking

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:35:49Z"}, {"author": "Ignacio Castro", "text": "

I recall seeing lower draft00 around covid time but indeed worth checking the pattern over time

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:36:39Z"}, {"author": "Alvaro Retana", "text": "

Yes, the -00 documents went down during the pandemic, and they started going back up once we started meeting in person again. My interpretation at the time was about having more opportunities for f2f exchange of ideas.

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:39:07Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

I think the key issue is that MT is like 30% of mails on the mailing list :P

", "time": "2024-11-08T10:41:35Z"}, {"author": "Jaime Jimenez", "text": "

@Ignacio and @Alvaro , one thing I forgot to mention.
\nBluesheets are released sometimes a month ietf, it would be great if they could be released earlier.

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:06:52Z"}, {"author": "Alvaro Retana", "text": "

I'm not sure why that is the case since they're tracked through Meetecho...

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:07:28Z"}, {"author": "Ignacio Castro", "text": "

Something to flag indeed

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:07:48Z"}, {"author": "Alvaro Retana", "text": "

I can look into that.

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:07:49Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

Very basic question. What is a pattern language?

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:10:37Z"}, {"author": "St\u00e9phane Bortzmeyer", "text": "

No idea but WIkipedia knows https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_language

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:13:02Z"}, {"author": "Alvaro Retana", "text": "

It's a way to describe problems/solutions/behaviors through the use of patterns. Open deliberation is an important patterns in the IETF (as we work towards consensus, for example).

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:15:02Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

The slides from the summer: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/120/materials/slides-120-rasprg-arc-regenerative-communities-03

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:15:03Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "

FWIW, not useful to me on their own. Will have to review the video I guess. (Not criticizing, IETF WG's have similar expectations about knowing prev sessions/docs)

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:16:05Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

@Alvaro, what's the goal of the language? Simply to efficiently describe? Something to inform how to do things better?

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:17:09Z"}, {"author": "Jean Mahoney", "text": "

Nit on slide 17: s/RFC Series Consulting Editor/RFC Production Center

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:17:31Z"}, {"author": "St\u00e9phane Bortzmeyer", "text": "

Not enough characters on the slides :-)

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:18:25Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "

Is the chirping coming from Dublin or video?

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:18:33Z"}, {"author": "Day Waterbury", "text": "

@Jonathan In our case, the goal was essentially to \"sequence the social DNA\" for the purpose of\"horizontal gene transfer\" to other prosocial tech communities.

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:18:39Z"}, {"author": "Ignacio Castro", "text": "

@rich from Dublin

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:19:04Z"}, {"author": "Ryo Yanagida", "text": "

Rich Salz said:

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Is the chirping coming from Dublin or video?

\n
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I think this is from remote \u2014 sounds like a fire alarm that's running out of battery

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:19:06Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "

two replies, two different answers :)

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:20:11Z"}, {"author": "Ryo Yanagida", "text": "

:sweat_smile:

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:20:20Z"}, {"author": "St\u00e9phane Bortzmeyer", "text": "

That's because \"remote\" is relative. (We hear the chirping in the room.)

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:20:54Z"}, {"author": "Day Waterbury", "text": "

@St\u00e9phane We'll try to add more characters to the slides next time :-D

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:20:56Z"}, {"author": "Ryo Yanagida", "text": "

I am sitting in front of the speaker and I think I'm hearing this from the speaker.

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:21:00Z"}, {"author": "Shawn Ngiap", "text": "

I can certainly hear a periodic 'chirp' from the loud speakers in the room.

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:21:36Z"}, {"author": "Bumblefudge", "text": "

^ smoke detector out of batteries or something

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:24:07Z"}, {"author": "Bumblefudge", "text": "

we could start with that smoke detector

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:25:30Z"}, {"author": "Bumblefudge", "text": "

we're all losing our minds

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:28:04Z"}, {"author": "Bumblefudge", "text": "

https://internetidentityworkshop.com/

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:29:38Z"}, {"author": "Bumblefudge", "text": "

for people encountering it for the first time

", "time": "2024-11-08T11:29:47Z"}]