Least active chat of all WGs so far this week.
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:35:49Z"}, {"author": "Kathleen Moriarty", "text": "Yes, surprising
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:38:21Z"}, {"author": "Gustavo Sibaja", "text": "Kathleen can you post the rats attestation draft pls?
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:44:33Z"}, {"author": "Darrel Miller", "text": "JWT, JWE, JWS, JWP, JWK, WPT, WIT... you folks are going to run out of three letter combinations... :-P
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:44:55Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "you forgot CWT
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:45:27Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "Look, if JWT is \"jot\" then \"WPT\" can be \"Whip-It\".
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:45:32Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "We can standardise a larger alphabet ;)
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:45:35Z"}, {"author": "Ned Smith", "text": "Will the token include attestation results?
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:45:51Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "@Kathleen is this the right draft? https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rats-posture-assessment/01/
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:46:10Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "You could include it as optional claims
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:46:16Z"}, {"author": "Darrel Miller", "text": "Is there an April 1st draft that defines a WTF?
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:47:21Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "There oughta be.
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:48:19Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "WIMSE Token Formats
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:48:26Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "Ha
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:48:36Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "application/wtf
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:48:38Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "WPT has a better acronym, so ...
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:48:56Z"}, {"author": "Ned Smith", "text": "Random WIMSE arch question, why is there both hop-by-hop (HBH) TLS and E2E TLS flows? If you rearange the boxes a little the E2E flow looks like a HBH flow.
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:49:56Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "The \"speaker camera\" looks like a weird album cover.
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:52:19Z"}, {"author": "Kathleen Moriarty", "text": "I think some have started complex, many have started with the goal of remaining simple and that exploded
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:53:10Z"}, {"author": "Darrel Miller", "text": "As an outsider who is not a domain expert, it makes me sad when you give me decisions to make that I don't feel equipped to make.
\nHTTPSig is a finished thing. Do we really need to invent another thing?
+1
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:53:56Z"}, {"author": "Dean Saxe", "text": "It\u2019s like Perl - there\u2019s more than one way to do it.
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:53:58Z"}, {"author": "Darrel Miller", "text": "And I have chosen to never use Perl :-)
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:54:15Z"}, {"author": "Yogesh Deshpande", "text": "I support Dean
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:54:42Z"}, {"author": "Yogesh Deshpande", "text": "Architecture should support multiple deployments
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:54:56Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "I think we need to be judicious when asking the IETF to standardize a new thing that does what an old thing already does without a really good reason.
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:55:02Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "Not all workload environments use HTTP, so having flexibility helps
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:55:05Z"}, {"author": "Dean Saxe", "text": "We should take this discussion to the mailing list.
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:55:15Z"}, {"author": "Dean Saxe", "text": "What Pieter said is critical to this discussion as well
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:55:30Z"}, {"author": "Darrel Miller", "text": "@Pieter I may be biased about HTTP.
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:55:31Z"}, {"author": "Kathleen Moriarty", "text": "@Justin Yes. Additional roots of trust will be added in the next version and attestation between workloads & Containers will be added as well
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:55:34Z"}, {"author": "Kathleen Moriarty", "text": "Scale was a major consideration
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:55:54Z"}, {"author": "Kathleen Moriarty", "text": "with the architecture and goes back to work with colleagues at Dell to ensure traceability and a compact exchange that works for an audit, large data centers were considered
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:57:04Z"}, {"author": "Kathleen Moriarty", "text": "@Murray - yes! re-use is good where possible
", "time": "2024-11-07T13:57:49Z"}, {"author": "Darrel Miller", "text": "I wonder if the architecture document can be really clear about \"if you use HTTP, use HTTPSig\" ?
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:00:24Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "If you need to support both HTTP and non-HTTP, you may prefer only to support a single mechanism
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:04:13Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "@meetecho - the panel on the chairs' table seems to have shut down or lost signal? it's cycling through primary colors now.
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:07:06Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "@Justin Richer we'll look into this
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:07:57Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "@Lorenzo Miniero thank you!
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:08:59Z"}, {"author": "Kathleen Moriarty", "text": "Which draft? The pattern looks the same as PIKA for the workload use case.
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:28:49Z"}, {"author": "Yaron Sheffer", "text": "@kathleen he's talking about this PR: https://github.com/ietf-wg-wimse/draft-ietf-wimse-workload-identity-bcp/pull/8
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:30:11Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "@kathleen this is quite different from the PIKA use cases, it's about delivery of identity/credentials directly to the workload
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:30:21Z"}, {"author": "Kathleen Moriarty", "text": "Thank you, Yaron!
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:30:22Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "PIKA secure the JWK keys set - it is usually a subset of the flows Arndt is describing
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:30:46Z"}, {"author": "Kathleen Moriarty", "text": "That's the second use case, not the MLS one
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:30:48Z"}, {"author": "Kathleen Moriarty", "text": "OK, thanks Pieter, it'll help me to tread the draft, so I'll do that
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:31:11Z"}, {"author": "Kathleen Moriarty", "text": "read
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:31:16Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": ":+1:
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:32:12Z"}, {"author": "Muhammad Usama Sardar", "text": "For note taker, Muhammad Usama Sardra (TU Dresden). I complained multiple times: it still shows me as Muhammad Sardar in the queue.
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:39:29Z"}, {"author": "Brian Campbell", "text": "I am supportive of the \"new direction\" but ran out of time
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:40:58Z"}, {"author": "Yaron Sheffer", "text": "+1 Brian
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:41:08Z"}, {"author": "Brian Campbell", "text": "Late to the chat history but want to thank Justin and Murray for application/wtf chef's kiss
@muhammad the name is pulled from your Datatracker profile, it sounds like you might need to update your profile there.
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:49:29Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "https://datatracker.ietf.org/accounts/profile/
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:49:44Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "None of the links behind the link on the screen go anywhere useful.
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:53:25Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "Gotta fix something.
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:53:30Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "(at least not when I just tried them)
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:54:00Z"}, {"author": "Muhammad Usama Sardar", "text": "I did update the name. It stays for one session only and then reverts back to default.
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:56:41Z"}, {"author": "Darrel Miller", "text": "@ryan It appears like your datatracker submission got cancelled even though the action completed https://datatracker.ietf.org/api/submission/146935/status
", "time": "2024-11-07T14:59:01Z"}]