MOPS IETF 121 Dublin

13h00 - 14h30 GMT, Tuesday 2024-Nov-05

Admin [5 min]

Note well
Minute taker: Chris Lemmons
Agenda bash: None

Chair Slides:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/121/materials/slides-121-mops-mops-chair-slides-ietf-121-01

Working Group Documents [20 min]

Chair update on status of our recent documents (in chair slides)

New WG document: Network Overlay Impacts (Sanjay Mishra)
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-deen-mops-network-overlay-impacts/

Sanjay presents slides:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/121/materials/slides-121-mops-network-overlays-00

Glenn Deen: I've gotten requests that we be really specific about which
companies and services are involved in the problem at hand. I need help
balancing the need to be specific with the desire to avoid naming and
shaming.

Luis M: Will there be solutions to this problem? Is that part of this
work?

Sanjay: Yes. This may indeed involve suggesting APIs that need to be
exposed.

Leslie: This group is not chartered for protocol development, but we may
expose problems and suggest that other groups do work to help solve it.

Industry News/Experiences [45 min]

[30min] Common Access Token (CAT) (Will Law)

Will Law presents slides:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/121/materials/slides-121-mops-the-secret-lives-of-cats-00

Chris Lemmons, during the presentation: The Composite Claims (and, or,
nor) are defined in a draft before the COSE group. It is not yet adopted
and your support or criticism on the list is appreciated:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lemmons-cose-composite-claims/

Lucas Pardue: I observed the Geohash. There's some discussion on GeoIP
on hints and how it's related to privacy. They are using Geofeeds. Have
you considered it?

Will: No Not considered.

Glenn: That work is a little different. Here, the stuff is encrypted.
There's less of a privacy concern here.

Glenn: A lot of your use cases that are aobut blocking and enabling. But
there's a lot of additional options available here. It provides more
options for content selection.

Kyle: Do you mean rejected or revoked on catpor?

Chris, from across the room: Revoked.

Short discussion about how simple rejection would be insufficient.

Chris: The geohash claim is not mandatory to encrypt unless it exceeds 4
characters.

Eric: What is the interest in presenting here?

Will: I was asked here by the chairs. It's very interesting for this
group. moq requires a token and I'm interested in using the token
there.

Glenn: There's some questions about what parts go at the IETF. There's
intersectional overlap.

[15min] SVTA update (Glenn Deen)

Glenn presents slides:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/121/materials/slides-121-mops-svta-ietf121-update-02

Sanjay: Quick note, SVTA is also a member of Metaverse Standard Forums.
They have a town hall coming up. The SVTA Immersive Video Group is
presenting there.

Glenn: Are you involved in that group?

Sanjay: Yes.

Glenn: Are you a chair of that group.

Sanjay: Yes. :)

AoB [5min]

No other business. Meeting ajourns with plenty of time.