[{"author": "Francesca Palombini", "text": "<p>Meetecho: could you let the secretariat know that the slide clicker here doesn\u2019t work? Thank you!</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:01:39Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "<p>Will do!</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:01:55Z"}, {"author": "Francesca Palombini", "text": "<p>Thanks! Not urgent for this session, but might be good to fix for next session :)</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:02:48Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>Does it have to be a normative reference?</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:04:59Z"}, {"author": "Alexey Melnikov", "text": "<p>Yes!</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:05:07Z"}, {"author": "Christian Ams\u00fcss", "text": "<p>Can't you just state \"that's the state available for comparison\" and call it a day?</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:05:10Z"}, {"author": "Christian Ams\u00fcss", "text": "<p>It doesn't look like anything will move there any more.</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:05:20Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>No!</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:05:20Z"}, {"author": "Alexey Melnikov", "text": "<p>If there is no current reference to underlying protocols</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:05:33Z"}, {"author": "Alexey Melnikov", "text": "<p>than what are we comparing?</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:05:59Z"}, {"author": "Alexey Melnikov", "text": "<p>Exactly. Need stable references</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:06:52Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>You need a reference to the protocol that was examined.</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:08:39Z"}, {"author": "Christian Ams\u00fcss", "text": "<p>Ah, sorry: I mixed this up with draft-tschofenig-tls-cwt-02 which has been expired for years; this is \"just\" a year old.</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:08:39Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>Yes!</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:09:08Z"}, {"author": "Jaime Jimenez", "text": "<p>Shameless plug about IoT-related WGs in IETF, some are no more.</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://arxiv.org/pdf/2003.10279\">https://arxiv.org/pdf/2003.10279</a></p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:11:54Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>+1 MCR</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:16:08Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>Liaisons are IAB...</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:20:07Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>I nominate opsawg-ol</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:22:04Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>(-ol is MUD)</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:22:58Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>I'll check that...</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:25:25Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>One less after this IETF :-)</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:25:47Z"}, {"author": "Renzo Navas", "text": "<p>Bye!</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:27:15Z"}, {"author": "Christian Ams\u00fcss", "text": "<p>Preferably longer :-)</p>", "time": "2025-03-20T10:27:18Z"}]