USB tether your phone!
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:19:44Z"}, {"author": "Tim Chown", "text": "rpc?
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:21:35Z"}, {"author": "Alice Russo", "text": "RFC Production Center
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:21:52Z"}, {"author": "Karen O'Donoghue", "text": "RFC Production Center
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:21:57Z"}, {"author": "Tim Chown", "text": "ta
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:21:58Z"}, {"author": "Mike Ounsworth", "text": "Can that be defined? What does the RFC Production Center do?
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:22:10Z"}, {"author": "Jim Fenton", "text": "Does the concern about WiFi hotspots include iPhones etc. with tethering enabled? That would potentially be a lot of devices.
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:22:24Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "Yes
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:22:46Z"}, {"author": "Alice Russo", "text": "@Mike, it's what used to be called the RFC Editor; it's the function of publishing the approved I-Ds as RFCs.
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:22:48Z"}, {"author": "Mike Ounsworth", "text": "Thanks Alice!
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:23:03Z"}, {"author": "Tim Chown", "text": "ah, that now makes sense
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:23:04Z"}, {"author": "Mike Ounsworth", "text": "Wait, USB tethering your phone to your laptop is bad?
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:23:42Z"}, {"author": "Jim Fenton", "text": "USB tethering should be OK. It's WiFi tethering that is the concern
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:24:48Z"}, {"author": "Mike Ounsworth", "text": "Henk makes a really good point!
\nI have in the past done horrible things with makefiles to transform my markdown before handing it to the kramdown build tool. Yeah, that would be impossible to review / edit. Good point.
2 approvals in 48 hours, right! :)
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:29:57Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "So you're just stuck with editing rfcxml for now anyway
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:29:59Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Gillmor", "text": "using {::include }
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:30:07Z"}, {"author": "Mike Ounsworth", "text": "That said, for all the reasons mentioned, back-porting RPC team changes made on the XML back to the (pre-transformed) markdown can be a pain.
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:32:20Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Gillmor", "text": "i find the easiest way to do that is a simple wrapper \"./compare\" script, which produces .txt output from both the original toolchain and from the RPC's xml, and compares the .txt outputs with each other
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:33:08Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Gillmor", "text": "then i tweak the markdown until the comparison shows no significant diffs.
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:33:45Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Gillmor", "text": "it's a bit of a pain, but not particularly awful.
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:34:12Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "I do the same thing dkg does.
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:39:20Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "I then do that with the XML. Which requires a LOT of ignoring stuff.
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:39:32Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "There's a tool I wrote that reduces whitespace changes between documents to help with that.
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:39:54Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "you could use tidy with the XML flag
https://github.com/martinthomson/rfc-tidy
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:40:44Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "tidy does work pretty well, but it isn't aware of the inline/block distinctions for RFC XML
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:41:10Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "so it can be a bit off
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:41:24Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "Quick skim: clever code! Nice.
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:42:37Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "clever is not usually something to be proud of
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:43:02Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "I would instead say \"hacky\"
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:43:12Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "There is an option in the i-d-template to have that tool run. The catch is that the comment Carsten adds with markdown source is removed (because it removes comments)
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:44:07Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "which is okay if you're doing it for diffs, tho, right?
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:44:40Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "RIght
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:49:11Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "Please don't use dark mode with a projector
", "time": "2025-07-23T11:59:42Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "and not showing on the \"lite\" version
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:00:13Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Gillmor", "text": "draft-unicorns-die-die-die
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:00:22Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "can I get a link to the repo?
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:00:27Z"}, {"author": "Jean Mahoney", "text": "https://github.com/martinthomson/sparkle-unicorn
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:00:53Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "https://github.com/martinthomson/internet-draft-template
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:01:27Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "v
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:01:47Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "https://github.com/new?template_name=internet-draft-template&template_owner=martinthomson
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:01:50Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "(This is where the above page points to)
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:01:59Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Gillmor", "text": "Many thanks to MT for doing this basekine work, but also maybe it could be hosted on https://github.com/ietf/ someplace
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:02:10Z"}, {"author": "Karen O'Donoghue", "text": "", "time": "2025-07-23T12:02:44Z"}, {"author": "Mike Ounsworth", "text": "@MT can you explain the different between
\nhttps://github.com/martinthomson/i-d-template
\nand
\nhttps://github.com/martinthomson/internet-draft-template
\nI know they both matter for the internals, but I think I only need to know about one of them?
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:02:48Z"}, {"author": "Henk Birkholz", "text": "It is of course, actually, https://raw.githubusercontent.com/martinthomson/internet-draft-template/refs/heads/main/draft-todo-yourname-protocol.md
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:02:51Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "@secretariat: Someone is doing some disruptive hammering behind the stage in Castilla.
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:05:05Z"}, {"author": "Jay Daley", "text": "Someone is on it
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:05:13Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "Thanks
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:05:19Z"}, {"author": "Dhruv Dhody", "text": "Is there a place where we have info on what to do when we move I-Ds from personal to WG github org?
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:07:24Z"}, {"author": "Dhruv Dhody", "text": "Thanks MCR, that was my question!~
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:08:42Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Gillmor", "text": "this is my favorite part of a shoulder-surfing session
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:11:17Z"}, {"author": "Lucas Pardue", "text": "The role management is the really annoying part, let's document it
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:11:21Z"}, {"author": "Renzo Navas", "text": "In any case, I think we will need a written (or video) tutorial
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:12:49Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Gillmor", "text": "someone should send this video to the github UX team
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:12:51Z"}, {"author": "Karen O'Donoghue", "text": "right... we need some simple guides and tutorials.
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:13:09Z"}, {"author": "Tim Chown", "text": "where's the 'import repo' button? :)
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:13:17Z"}, {"author": "Mike Ounsworth", "text": "+1 DKG.
\n\"How many IETF experts does it take to import a repo?\"
+1 MT -- history is really valuable
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:14:11Z"}, {"author": "Mike Ounsworth", "text": "Importing the repo also brings over all the Github Issues (both open and closed)
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:14:20Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "I believe if you fork the repo you'll get the history but not the issues, if that's what you want
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:14:44Z"}, {"author": "Henk Birkholz", "text": "@Jim: gitbot also helps
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:15:15Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "The URL for assigning users to roles (such as admin or maintainer) is of the form:
\nhttps://github.com/ORG/REPO/settings/access
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:15:25Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "Mike: I think Henk was pointing out that the value of these MAY be negative, so do think before you act. But generally the vaue is pisitive.
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:16:13Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "Don't make blanket rules here -- WGs are different.
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:17:23Z"}, {"author": "Mike Ounsworth", "text": "Personally, I have had multi-year old Github Issues save my bacon when someone asks \"Why was this designed this way?\" and we can go dig up the discussion thread.
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:17:32Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "In some WGs, documents stay candidate for adoption for a long time.
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:17:41Z"}, {"author": "Mike Ounsworth", "text": "(but year, I'm not trying to recommend any blanket thing)
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:17:53Z"}, {"author": "Mike Ounsworth", "text": "*fair
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:17:57Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "Mike: Of course, don't delete the old repo, archive it.
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:17:58Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "You can transfer repos and issues, with the correct permissions :)
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:17:59Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "Can someone post the repo for the notifications e-mail? I know it exists but can't find it quickly
", "time": "2025-07-23T12:18:05Z"}]