[{"author": "Brian Campbell", "text": "<p>i will not be kind to Arndt</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T12:32:08Z"}, {"author": "Arndt Schwenkschuster", "text": "<p>Brian <span aria-label=\"heart\" class=\"emoji emoji-2764\" role=\"img\" title=\"heart\">:heart:</span></p>", "time": "2025-07-22T12:34:49Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>cool to see cnf.jwk.alg</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T12:37:27Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "<p>Compatibility with legacy systems may require multiple identifiers...</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T12:41:17Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "<p>Thanks for all the reviews Dean</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:01:14Z"}, {"author": "Dean Saxe", "text": "<p>happy to help</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:02:32Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "<p>Define the relationship between security and authroization context perhaps? \"e.g. security context included authorization context\"</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:08:34Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>composite agents are also referred to as \"agent teams\", there are various frameworks for building such teams or composite agents, they are a way to scale access to tools</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:20:33Z"}, {"author": "Brian Campbell", "text": "<p>I hear the cool kids are already doing nano-agents</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:20:40Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "<p>LOL</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:20:58Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "<p>yaron get back on mic please</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:21:04Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "<p>thanks</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:21:07Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>volume in room is a bit loud</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:24:09Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>now</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:24:11Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>For background, MCP was developed by Anthropic, but is now widely adopted.</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:25:15Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "<p>Is audio overly loud for folks dialed in as well?</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:25:22Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "<p>@meetecho please turn speaker mic back down a bit, speaker got closer to the mic</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:25:38Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "<p>Better now?</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:26:35Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>yes, thanks!</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:26:41Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "<p>thank you!</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:26:46Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "<p>Thanks!</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:26:58Z"}, {"author": "Kathleen Moriarty", "text": "<p>Thanks to Yaron for this survey on gaps and possible set of requirements.</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:31:25Z"}, {"author": "Arndt Schwenkschuster", "text": "<p>+1</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:39:17Z"}, {"author": "Muhammad Usama Sardar", "text": "<p>Need to first identify what Agent actually is :)</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:39:24Z"}, {"author": "Henk Birkholz", "text": "<p>Mark's presentation will start to highlight why \"Attestation\" will become as confusing as always everywhere, if not dealt with</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:39:41Z"}, {"author": "Arndt Schwenkschuster", "text": "<p>@Muhammad I would leave that to the AI community. We are just looking at the identity aspect of it and there\u2019s much more to it.</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:40:34Z"}, {"author": "Arndt Schwenkschuster", "text": "<p>Us trying to define the term would do much more harm than good IMHO</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:40:56Z"}, {"author": "Muhammad Usama Sardar", "text": "<p>I didn't necessarily mean defining rather identifying understanding what we need in addition to what we call \"workload\". Such as how can we attest it?</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:42:28Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "<p>Thanks for making that connection Kathleen</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:43:26Z"}, {"author": "Kathleen Moriarty", "text": "<p>No Problem!</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:43:41Z"}, {"author": "Heather Flanagan", "text": "<p><a href=\"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-spice-glue-id/\">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-spice-glue-id/</a></p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:43:49Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "<p>^-- added to notes</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:45:44Z"}, {"author": "Arndt Schwenkschuster", "text": "<p>Taking the time into account I\u2019m writing in chat: I support working on it but it should be fast because other documents rely on it</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:46:34Z"}, {"author": "Flemming Andreasen", "text": "<p>Agree with Arndt</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:47:28Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "<p>Can the speaker come closer to the mic please?</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:49:20Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "<p>Much better, thanks</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:49:44Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "<p>Added Flmming and Arndt's expression of interest in the identifier doc to the notes.</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:50:13Z"}, {"author": "Andrew McCormick", "text": "<p>I am also interested in the identifier doc.</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:50:56Z"}, {"author": "Dean Saxe", "text": "<p>this work is important and should continue, in my opinion.</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:52:07Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "<p>Noted</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:52:08Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "<p>dean by \"this work\" you mean exchange or identifier?</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:52:31Z"}, {"author": "Dean Saxe", "text": "<p>The exchange that Arndt is speaking about</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:52:45Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "<p>thank you for clarifying</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:52:52Z"}, {"author": "Flemming Andreasen", "text": "<p>I support it too, especially for the reasons Joe pointed out</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:53:32Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "<p>Noted</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:53:53Z"}, {"author": "Henk Birkholz", "text": "<p>+1 Justin</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T13:55:35Z"}, {"author": "Ramki Krishnan", "text": "<p>Accessing static secrets in<br>\nMulti Service Environments -- IMHO, think some aspects are relevant for WIMSE especially from a Sovereign Cloud data residency requirements perspective (will cover that in my presentation)</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:04:59Z"}, {"author": "Kathleen Moriarty", "text": "<p>I agree it is an important problem.</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:05:29Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>+1 Justin</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:06:11Z"}, {"author": "Muhammad Usama Sardar", "text": "<p>Do you share the meeting notes somewhere?</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:06:55Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "<p>@Muhammad the notes will be added to Datatracker after the meeting, and will be available linked from our group's page</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:07:21Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "<p>As will the chat logs, transcript, and video recording</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:07:31Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>They are also here: <a href=\"https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-123-wimse\">https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-123-wimse</a></p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:07:50Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "<p>While those are the live WIP notes, they'll be uploaded as meeting materials as a frozen artifact post-meeting</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:08:22Z"}, {"author": "Muhammad Usama Sardar", "text": "<p>Apologies, I was asking the last speaker, not this meeting notes.</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:08:23Z"}, {"author": "Nat Sakimura", "text": "<p>Please move closer to the mic...</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:08:41Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "<p>Presentations are also available</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:08:44Z"}, {"author": "Muhammad Usama Sardar", "text": "<p>Their design team meeting notes</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:08:49Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "<p>Better Nat?</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:09:19Z"}, {"author": "Dean Saxe", "text": "<p>can't hear the speaker</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:22:12Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "<p>please get closer to the mic</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:22:16Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "<p>Is someone speaking?</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:22:16Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "<p>Better?</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:22:28Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "<p>No</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:22:31Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "<p>Completely inaudible</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:22:35Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>now?</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:22:55Z"}, {"author": "Dean Saxe", "text": "<p>that's better now</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:22:58Z"}, {"author": "Oliver Borchert", "text": "<p>better</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:23:00Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>thanks chairs!</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:23:06Z"}, {"author": "Pieter Kasselman", "text": "<p>Jonathan?</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:23:09Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "<p>Yup, fixed now.</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:24:07Z"}, {"author": "Henk Birkholz", "text": "<p>@Usama: yes, ine some scenarios, not necessarily all</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:26:41Z"}, {"author": "Muhammad Usama Sardar", "text": "<p>yes, I didn't say all. I said it is possible.</p>", "time": "2025-07-22T14:27:02Z"}]