[{"author": "Jon Geater", "text": "<p>Anyone remote in the chat want to take notes?</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T16:32:21.000Z"}, {"author": "Jon Geater", "text": "<p>The main reason for the 67 PRs is that each individual comment from each review was PR'd separately for traceability.</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T16:44:00.000Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>I think \"manifest format\" is a better term  than non-opaque statement.</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T16:45:43.000Z"}, {"author": "Jon Geater", "text": "<p>Isn't that more likely \"the format of a manifest\" like a contents list rather than \"a format that is manifest\"?</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T16:47:01.000Z"}, {"author": "Jon Geater", "text": "<p>Thank you Henk!</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T16:47:44.000Z"}, {"author": "Jon Geater", "text": "<p>Forestrie is the open source implementation of the SCITT stuff. DataTrails is a larger system that incorporates that.</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T16:50:34.000Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>@jon, my point is that if you build a graph from a payload... the most useful payloads are ones that describe relationships. Not necessarily the assets of those relationships, sbom is a manifest format, but a specific lookup table / compiled library included in software library would be an asset.</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T16:53:16.000Z"}, {"author": "Jon Geater", "text": "<p>Ah right OK, so yes that aligns with what I was thinking</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T16:54:07.000Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<p>Nice textbook example for a badly adjusted noise gate.</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T16:54:23.000Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p><a href=\"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-birkholz-cose-receipts-ccf-profile/\">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-birkholz-cose-receipts-ccf-profile/</a></p>", "time": "2025-11-04T16:59:30.000Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>^ this one?</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T16:59:35.000Z"}, {"author": "Thomas McCarthy-Howe", "text": "<p>Can we have a hotter mic?</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:10:17.000Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Inacio", "text": "<p>@meetecho can we increase the mic for the speaker?</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:10:40.000Z"}, {"author": "Thomas McCarthy-Howe", "text": "<p>A little better, good enough if you're worried about the feedback.</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:11:00.000Z"}, {"author": "Thomas McCarthy-Howe", "text": "<p>Back row here.</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:11:07.000Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Inacio", "text": "<p>@amaury can you hear?</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:11:32.000Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "<p><span class=\"user-mention\" data-user-id=\"1195\">@Christopher Inacio</span> do you mean the local speaker? Is it not loud enough in the room or for remote attendees?</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:11:43.000Z"}, {"author": "Thomas McCarthy-Howe", "text": "<p>Room here</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:11:53.000Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "<p>Ack, I'll notify the AV team</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:12:09.000Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Inacio", "text": "<p>in the room, but checking remote too</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:12:15.000Z"}, {"author": "Christopher Inacio", "text": "<p>@lorenzo thanks</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:12:26.000Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p><a href=\"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-spice-glue-id/\">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-spice-glue-id/</a> ... for identifying issuers or subjects, or as alternate well known names for them.</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:19:29.000Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>The message I sent to the list regarding this: <a href=\"https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/scitt/pj-BZIAkfGXeTW4xshHliVUZVzE/\">https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/scitt/pj-BZIAkfGXeTW4xshHliVUZVzE/</a></p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:25:11.000Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>The \"other apis\" i implemented here: <a href=\"https://tradeverifyd.github.io/transparency-service/\">https://tradeverifyd.github.io/transparency-service/</a></p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:25:32.000Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>Amaury is talking about <a href=\"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rats-corim/\">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rats-corim/</a></p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:30:37.000Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>Also from dispatch yesterday: <a href=\"https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/124/materials/slides-124-dispatch-a-standard-for-claiming-transparency-and-falsifiability-00\">https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/124/materials/slides-124-dispatch-a-standard-for-claiming-transparency-and-falsifiability-00</a></p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:33:26.000Z"}, {"author": "Thomas McCarthy-Howe", "text": "<p>@orie: what was the result of the dispatch for <a href=\"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-laurie-tmif/\">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-laurie-tmif/</a></p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:38:09.000Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>RATS</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:49:15.000Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>lets to traceability claims in SPICE... <a href=\"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-prorock-spice-cwt-traceability-claims/\">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-prorock-spice-cwt-traceability-claims/</a> .... not in SCITT.</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:55:00.000Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>do *</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:55:06.000Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>semantics for receipts belong in CWT claims in headers.</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:58:26.000Z"}, {"author": "Orie Steele", "text": "<p>next to sub and iss : )</p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:58:39.000Z"}, {"author": "Jon Geater", "text": "<p><span aria-label=\"+1\" class=\"emoji emoji-1f44d\" role=\"img\" title=\"+1\">:+1:</span></p>", "time": "2025-11-04T17:59:04.000Z"}]