[{"author": "Michael Richardson", "text": "<p>Hello!</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T14:30:15.000Z"}, {"author": "Teresa Algarra", "text": "<p>Very nice presentation, thank you Jason :)</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T14:57:34.000Z"}, {"author": "Maxime Piraux", "text": "<p>Ty for the presentation Jason, could you put the reference to your paper with the PAT times histogram ?</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T14:59:04.000Z"}, {"author": "Kerry Lynn", "text": "<p>Ask the speaker to hold the mic further from her mouth please</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T14:59:32.000Z"}, {"author": "Joerg Ott", "text": "<p>better&gt;</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:00:14.000Z"}, {"author": "Joerg Ott", "text": "<p>?</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:00:18.000Z"}, {"author": "Kerry Lynn", "text": "<p>further is better. getting distortion</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:03:39.000Z"}, {"author": "Kerry Lynn", "text": "<p>no worries</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:03:52.000Z"}, {"author": "Jason Gerard", "text": "<p>Hi Maxime, email me at <a href=\"mailto:jason.gerard@mail.concordia.ca\">jason.gerard@mail.concordia.ca</a> and I can send you a preprint.</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:10:05.000Z"}, {"author": "Jianping Pan", "text": "<p>q: now netflix has open connect appliances inside starlink pop. why not to have some starlink specific optimization there for starlink users, e.g., to deal with the 15-second regular handover?</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:12:17.000Z"}, {"author": "Nitinder Mohan", "text": "<p>I believe Renata mentioned that they wanted to have more general optimizations that doesnt take network level information</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:13:45.000Z"}, {"author": "Jianping Pan", "text": "<p>but for the oca inside the starlink pop?</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:15:06.000Z"}, {"author": "Nitinder Mohan", "text": "<p>of course those optimizations are easy additions.</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:17:25.000Z"}, {"author": "Wesley Eddy", "text": "<p>+1 Gorry!</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:19:06.000Z"}, {"author": "Nitinder Mohan", "text": "<p>+1 Dirk</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:21:30.000Z"}, {"author": "David Oran", "text": "<p>i wonder if there\u2019s something to be learned from earlier work on predictive CC (like Keith winstein\u2019s early work) that tried to predict short-duration fluctuations in cellular networks due to handoffs. The time constants may be different, but the ideas may still apply.</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:24:26.000Z"}, {"author": "Joerg Ott", "text": "<p>There was I think a SIGCOMM paper this year that did something along these lines, specifically to predict the 15s fluctuations in Starlink</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:25:05.000Z"}, {"author": "Jianping Pan", "text": "<p><a href=\"https://oac.uvic.ca/starlink/wp-content/uploads/sites/8876/2024/09/leonet24-victor.pdf\">https://oac.uvic.ca/starlink/wp-content/uploads/sites/8876/2024/09/leonet24-victor.pdf</a></p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:25:45.000Z"}, {"author": "Nitinder Mohan", "text": "<p>+1 Dave. That can be especially useful for application level optimization as well (e.g. for RTP delivery which is most impacted in sat links)</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:25:51.000Z"}, {"author": "Nitinder Mohan", "text": "<p>paper J\u00f6rg mentions: <a href=\"https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3718958.3750491\">https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3718958.3750491</a></p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:26:18.000Z"}, {"author": "Joerg Ott", "text": "<p>Thanks :)</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:26:47.000Z"}, {"author": "David Oran", "text": "<p>Q for Renata - was the data all stored video or was some of it live? If only stored, why not just allow deeper buffers (which would reduce stalls at the expense of slightly longer startup delay).</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:26:47.000Z"}, {"author": "Jianping Pan", "text": "<p>they can do things before and after the regular handovers</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:27:53.000Z"}, {"author": "Renata Teixeira", "text": "<p>Dave, we have only looked at VoD for now. I'm super curious to look at live and gaming as well. It is true that we could buffer more but that would be a tradeoff with play delay.</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:39:27.000Z"}, {"author": "Nishanth Sastry", "text": "<p>Another simulator, which is available for researchers: <a href=\"https://netsys.surrey.ac.uk/softwares/xeoverse/\">https://netsys.surrey.ac.uk/softwares/xeoverse/</a></p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:39:41.000Z"}, {"author": "Roland Bless", "text": "<p>Or Hypatia:<br>\n<a href=\"https://github.com/snkas/hypatia\">https://github.com/snkas/hypatia</a></p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:41:38.000Z"}, {"author": "Nishanth Sastry", "text": "<p>Also: <a href=\"https://github.com/SpaceNetLab/StarryNet\">https://github.com/SpaceNetLab/StarryNet</a></p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:46:55.000Z"}, {"author": "David Oran", "text": "<p>@renata: or ramp up slower to build a larger buffer in steady state. Lots of long content (movies, tv episodes) have introductory segments that don\u2019t need higher parts of the ladder since the don\u2019t have much motion, etc.). Live is of course super challenging, of course.</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:50:52.000Z"}, {"author": "Nitinder Mohan", "text": "<p>+1 Dave!</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T15:59:50.000Z"}, {"author": "Jianping Pan", "text": "<p>space is the next data center ;-)</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T16:00:28.000Z"}, {"author": "Kerry Lynn", "text": "<p>I picked a good time to get into astrophotography ;-)</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T16:01:07.000Z"}, {"author": "Nishanth Sastry", "text": "<p><a href=\"https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/starcloud/\">https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/starcloud/</a></p>", "time": "2025-11-06T16:01:29.000Z"}, {"author": "Nitinder Mohan", "text": "<p>It would also be a good ideas as an RG to start a document keeping track of different simulators, emulators, measurement datasets and tools for fostering satellite research</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T16:01:43.000Z"}, {"author": "Joerg Ott", "text": "<p>This is explicitly on our Wiki todo loist</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T16:01:57.000Z"}, {"author": "Nishanth Sastry", "text": "<p><a href=\"https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3718958.3754345\">https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3718958.3754345</a></p>", "time": "2025-11-06T16:02:06.000Z"}, {"author": "Prince B", "text": "<p><a href=\"https://blog.google/technology/research/google-project-suncatcher/\">https://blog.google/technology/research/google-project-suncatcher/</a></p>", "time": "2025-11-06T16:02:09.000Z"}, {"author": "Michael Richardson", "text": "<p><span class=\"user-mention silent\" data-user-id=\"4744\">Jianping Pan</span> <a href=\"#narrow/channel/419-space/topic/ietf-124/near/193506\">said</a>:</p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>space is the next data center ;-)</p>\n</blockquote>\n<p>It seems like a solution looking for a problem to me.  While energy seems free up there, cooling is not.  There was a very long discussion about whether DNS caches in space would even be useful.</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T16:02:40.000Z"}, {"author": "Nitinder Mohan", "text": "<p>Thanks for a great SPACERG :)</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T16:02:49.000Z"}, {"author": "Nitinder Mohan", "text": "<p>We havent even touched the resilience aspects yet :)</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T16:03:22.000Z"}, {"author": "Joerg Ott", "text": "<p>:)</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T16:03:30.000Z"}, {"author": "Kerry Lynn", "text": "<p>Good point about cooling</p>", "time": "2025-11-06T16:03:37.000Z"}]