:folded_hands:
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:04:13.000Z"}, {"author": "Brian Carpenter", "text": ":clap:
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:04:23.000Z"}, {"author": "Suresh Krishnan", "text": "Thanks for your leadership Erik! And welcome \u00c9ric!
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:05:09.000Z"}, {"author": "Brian Carpenter", "text": "@remote room 3, you're sending background noises
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:06:50.000Z"}, {"author": "Jen Linkova", "text": "hmmm...hard to fix as I can't mute/unmute us all the time ;( But I'll mute us as soon as we are done with the chairs slides
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:07:30.000Z"}, {"author": "Brian Carpenter", "text": "@jen it's better now, but banging a laptop down on the table came through very loud
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:08:58.000Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "Erik may have a point though
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:08:59.000Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "Do we have a note taker for this discussion ?
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:09:40.000Z"}, {"author": "Jen Linkova", "text": "Eric: AI
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:09:58.000Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "Erik K your voice is not very loud...
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:15:25.000Z"}, {"author": "Adrian Farrel", "text": "Thank you Erik!
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:15:27.000Z"}, {"author": "Adrian Farrel", "text": "(I mean for being shepherd and getting this little doc into the pipe)
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:16:16.000Z"}, {"author": "Adrian Farrel", "text": "(Also thank you for being AD_
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:16:25.000Z"}, {"author": "Jen Linkova", "text": "any echo in the main room? Just curious
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:20:41.000Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "no (just a disturbing sound from the adjacent room -- I have asked Secretariat to try to fix it)
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:21:15.000Z"}, {"author": "Ted Lemon", "text": "Did we talk about the snac cluster issue? I unfortunately overslept so didn't make it for the beginning.
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:21:40.000Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "yes ;)
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:21:51.000Z"}, {"author": "Ted Lemon", "text": "Argh, sorry. Dare I ask what happened?
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:22:13.000Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "Will change the reference in ra-snac-flag to informative (requiring IESG approval though)
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:22:18.000Z"}, {"author": "Ted Lemon", "text": "great, thanks!
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:22:38.000Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "@Ted does not mean that you can delay snac-simple ;)
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:23:28.000Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "Check: who is the note taker ?
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:24:05.000Z"}, {"author": "David Lamparter", "text": "This discussion was a bit mumble-y
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:24:18.000Z"}, {"author": "Jen Linkova", "text": "Eric: AI
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:24:30.000Z"}, {"author": "David Lamparter", "text": "Eric: I believe an AI somewhere?
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:24:33.000Z"}, {"author": "Jen Linkova", "text": "The tool
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:24:37.000Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "I understood Action Item to assign...
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:24:52.000Z"}, {"author": "Jen Linkova", "text": "ah ;) acronyms collision detected
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:25:08.000Z"}, {"author": "Bob Hinden", "text": "EKR's tool
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:25:15.000Z"}, {"author": "Bob Hinden", "text": "for minutes
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:25:20.000Z"}, {"author": "Ted Lemon", "text": "@eric, no worries, I am not feeling off the hook.
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:25:30.000Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "understood
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:25:32.000Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "(to Bob & Ted)
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:25:45.000Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "This sounds sensible to wait for draft-xbm-interea to progress
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:33:17.000Z"}, {"author": "Ted Lemon", "text": "And of course now the audio goes into the tunnel...
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:48:17.000Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "We miss Jen's font and background though
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:55:58.000Z"}, {"author": "David Lamparter", "text": "Advanced PowerPoint karaoke!
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:56:05.000Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "There's a popular local DNS server that listens on 127.0.0.53 to avoid conflicting with whatever's on the \"real\" port 53.
", "time": "2026-03-18T06:57:48.000Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "Note that IPv4 only has 24 bits of loopback space.
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:00:18.000Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "Good point Philip
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:00:59.000Z"}, {"author": "Ted Lemon", "text": "I think Brian has the right of it. My main use for this is for testing, and I do actually use it in the form of a loopback, but it\u2019s really just a prefix that I use for address differentiation.
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:03:43.000Z"}, {"author": "Erik Kline", "text": "::7f00:0/104 ?
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:07:08.000Z"}, {"author": "Justin Iurman", "text": "about DestOps: true for the first one (with RH), not for the second one (ESP+Dest would protect it)
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:17:45.000Z"}, {"author": "Kazunori Fujiwara", "text": "RFC 9715 discusses IP Fragmentation Avoidance in DNS over UDP
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:22:34.000Z"}, {"author": "C. Heard", "text": "RFC 9868 offers an means of doing fragmentation at the UDP layer.
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:23:40.000Z"}, {"author": "Gorry Fairhurst", "text": "Loss rates I'd expect vary significantly by location.
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:25:28.000Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "+1 Gorry
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:26:55.000Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "100% Ron
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:27:22.000Z"}, {"author": "Philipp Tiesel", "text": "I second Ron's opinion
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:27:43.000Z"}, {"author": "David Lamparter", "text": "third :)
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:28:14.000Z"}, {"author": "David Lamparter", "text": "Jen's comment is close to what I was trying to get at. I'd rather start documenting and specifying behavior for middleboxes/the network edge. (and certainly not make it a recommendation or requirement to drop DHs.)
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:32:23.000Z"}, {"author": "David Lamparter", "text": "(the drafts already document/specify specifically network edge behavior, but it's kinda put in a [to me] very odd perspective)
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:33:16.000Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9099#name-order-and-repetition-of-ext
\n\n", "time": "2026-03-18T07:33:48.000Z"}, {"author": "Bob Hinden", "text": "A firewall or edge device should be used to enforce the recommended order and the maximum occurrences of extension headers by dropping nonconforming packets
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Good point
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:35:10.000Z"}, {"author": "David Lamparter", "text": "oh great that kinda does it already
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:35:20.000Z"}, {"author": "Brian Carpenter", "text": "Try RFC 9288
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:35:40.000Z"}, {"author": "David Lamparter", "text": "there might be a point in creating more detailed guidance for both firewall vendors as well as admins doing firewall config
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:36:13.000Z"}, {"author": "David Lamparter", "text": "aaaand that's 9288 :D
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:37:18.000Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "9288 is for transit though
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:37:49.000Z"}, {"author": "David Lamparter", "text": "hm.
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:38:28.000Z"}, {"author": "Brian Carpenter", "text": "Yes, but it could be extrapolated to site firewalls
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:38:35.000Z"}, {"author": "David Lamparter", "text": "how common is it for a firewall to not also be a router?
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:42:06.000Z"}, {"author": "Jen Linkova", "text": "L2 firewalls
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:43:02.000Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "For info, voice of remote speakers when heard from the 'front stage' is difficult to understand
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:43:24.000Z"}, {"author": "Jen Linkova", "text": "Eric - is it the case for Lorenzo or me as well?
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:44:13.000Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "Better for Lorenzo now (may be he moved closer to the mike)
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:44:37.000Z"}, {"author": "Jen Linkova", "text": "strange, but no, he did not..
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:45:03.000Z"}, {"author": "Jen Linkova", "text": "Those audio things are pure black magic
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:45:20.000Z"}, {"author": "David Lamparter", "text": "\n", "time": "2026-03-18T07:45:21.000Z"}, {"author": "David Lamparter", "text": "L2 firewalls
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\nyeah, I know they exist, I worked on one a loooooong time ago - but have no idea how common they are (and tbh are the people building them going to dismiss 9288 on a technicality? I wouldn't.)
(argh, that formatting went wrong)
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:45:33.000Z"}, {"author": "David Lamparter", "text": "+1 on that
", "time": "2026-03-18T07:59:29.000Z"}, {"author": "David Lamparter", "text": "it specifies what to do with/when you get a spring packet back, no? that means spring WG to me
", "time": "2026-03-18T08:00:41.000Z"}, {"author": "Shaofu Peng", "text": "seems that the exposed ICMP paccket sent to the original VPN source contains the ingress PE & egress PE ?
", "time": "2026-03-18T08:01:05.000Z"}]