RMT minutes IETF65 Dallas
Lorenzo Vicisano, WG chair
Mark Pullen, scribe
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GENERAL

* Agenda bashing: none

* Latest accomplishments:

FEC BB submitted standards track
TFMCC submitted experimental

Several experimental RFC targeted for standards track:
pi-alc, bb-lct, bb-fec-basic-schemes-revised, flute-revised,
norm-pi-revised, bb-norm-revised

New work intended for standard track:
fev-raptor-object, bb-fec-ldpc, fec-rs

* Report from Allison:
-really great documents ready to go- expects good progress in IESG
-when NORM does last call, it needs to state "we are intentionally 
 referencing an experimental RFC" (tfmcc BB)
 
* draft-faurite-rmt-tesla-for-alc-norm also in progress; is not a WG
document because of timing, but is likely to be "officially" adopted
by the MSEC WG

* IPR change in Raptor:
Digital Fountain has changed IPR terms in their Raptor document
they were trying to promote it in open standards but for business
reasons they "need to pull away from the IETF's all-or-nothing 
requirement"

Scott Bradner comment: there is no IETF requirement for a particular
IPR statement; Digital Fountain could release IP for a specific standard

Others present supported the notion of a standard with some
restricted IPR because there is a lot of interest in Raptor; said
it is probably the most efficient of RMT FEC encoders; no negative
statements were made

Allison: the important thing is to document that the WG knew about
the IPR restriction when it reached the consensus decision to
go ahead with Raptor in the standards track document

Lorenzo: noted that all statements at the meeting were in favor
of continuing with standards track for Raptor, stated that the
issue also will be brought to the mailing list
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I-D PRESENTATIONS

* Vincent Roca: LDPC Staircase/Triangle FEC I-D has dealt with all open
points that were presented at Vancouver and updated reference
implementation; one more version to come with Intellectual Property
statement moved to IETF PRI disclosure web site; then will be
ready for WG last call

* Vincent Roca: Reed-Solomon FEC scheme I-D has been revised to
deal with technical errors that were described at IETF64

* Vincent Roca: TESLA for ALC and NORM: received comments that the scope
of the I-D was too large; has changed to deal only with TESLA; also made
other corrections; remaining open points (mostly for MSEC)
- possibility of key chain switch
- bootstrapping in or out of band
- other security points
Would like to move this document to MSEC WG because it is more
closely associated with their topics but will still present it
in both WG. This received support but with the note that it must
be covered by the MSEC charter.

* Brian Adamson: NORM update: to stay synchronized with other RMT
documents and other IETF document requirements; other issues:
whether to make "source_id", "instance_id", "object_id" consistent
with LCT; Lorenzo encouraged not to make any changes that don't
have very high value; conclusion was that changes are not
necessary

* Mark Watson: FEC Building Block: has final changes as agreed for
standards track

* Mark Watson: FEC Basic Schemes has final changes as agreed and 
clarifies use of Compact-No-Code FEC field for other FEC; ready
for WG last call? (objections; Lorenzo recommended to go forward)

* Mark Watson: Layer Coding Transport (LCT) final changes as agreed;
some changes on time value header fields; ready for WG last call?
(no objection; will go forward)