light agenda agenda bash: added kevin's ICN/DTN talk "finishing up" drafts dgram-layer: fred templin: setting of DF in IP header needs more thought/explaination maybe ft: udp cl says fragmentation is a problem ft: CL has to take better care of packet sizes simon perrault: I reviewed this and had a similar comment, draft doesn't talk about PMTUD sp: draft needs to say to do PMTUD ft: agrees, but sometimes PMTUD doesn't work so needs caveat simon said he'd already sent text, fred said he'd take a look kevin fall: there are error correction drafts (-00's) that are sort-of extension of DTN kf: raises question about reliability above CL Joerg ott: but that's not for the UDP CL draft jo: get authors to rev to take PMTUD into account tcp-cl: sp: this is ready jo: agrees bpmib: jo: had comments, was revised, its a MIB so nobody read it maybe jo: will do last call registries: marc blanchet: mb: slides, presenting for Keith who couldn't come (won't scribe slides) all ok as per slides, some discussion of RFC required but we stuck with it jo: will issue last call kevin's talk close