Agenda
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Date: Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Time: 1440-1540

1440 Note Well, agenda, note takers
1445 Tunnel Method - Nancy Cam-Winget
  http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-emu-eap-tunnel-method-04
1515 Mutual Crypto Binding - Sam Hartman
  http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-emu-crypto-bind-00
1540 Adjourn

Administrivia
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Joe reviewed the Note Well and the agenda.

Tunnel Method
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Nancy reviewed the status of draft-ietf-emu-eap-tunnel-method.
A new version (04) was submitted in October to respond to the
great comments received from Jim Schaad, Jouni Malinen, and
Simon Josefsson. All comments have been addressed except for
one issue remaining on certificate provisioning. The commenters
seem to be happy with the resolutions to their comments.

The certificate provisioning issue is that the current draft
says to use PKCS#7 and PKCS#10. Jim commented that we should
use CMS as defined by the IETF instead of PKCS. And maybe we
should align with the EST draft in PKIX instead.

Jim came to the mike and said that his issue was just to
update the references for PKCS#7. Also, he's not sure when
EST will be ready. Max Pritikin said EST should be ready
soon but there was general agreement in the room that there's
no need to align with it. They are orthogonal.

Jim raised a few more issues. First, you can now use MSK
or EMSK for the crypto binding but there's no place to
indicate that EMSK isn't available. Joe said that you
just set the EMSK value to 0. Jim pointed out that this
could happen randomly, although it's not likely.

Jim asked what happens if the server or client decides
to drop a packet. Sam asked what's the retransmit timer
for inner methods. Joe responded "Infinite". Sam said
then you need to say what the TEAP server or client
should do if the inner method implementation decides
to just drop a packet. Joe said he'll think about that.

Joe said the next steps are to call for review and do
a WGLC after IETF 85.

Mutual Crypto Binding
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Sam thinks that he has resolved all the comments that he's
aware of. There may be some missing sections. The draft
should be ready for WGLC by IETF 86.

Other Topics
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Sam noted that he was asked to mention that ABFAB is
working on an EAP applicability statement for use of
EAP with application protocols. And PCP is also talking
about using EAP in their Friday session at 11:20 AM.

Meeting adjourned.