IETF85 - STRAW WG meeting TUESDAY, November 6, 2012 -- 1520-1650 Afternoon Session II -- Salon A Chairs: Christer Holmberg and Victor Pascual Agenda: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/straw/agenda?item=agenda-85-straw.html Note takers: Keith Drage and Roland Jesske Jabber scribe: Jonathan Lennox Jabber log: http://www.ietf.org/jabber/logs/straw/2012-11-06.html Meetecho Session Recording: http://ietf85.conf.meetecho.com/index.php/Recorded_Sessions#IETF85_STRAW Audio Recording: http://www.ietf.org/audio/ietf85/ietf85-salona-20121106-1520-pm2.mp3 - - Agenda and WG update (15 min) Presenter: Chairs Slides: http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/85/slides/slides-85-straw-0.pdf Note well. Agenda bash. No bashing. Taxonomy draft already adopted as WG document, but unfortunately the editor missed the submission deadline. Chairs asked people to identify their interest, as the mailing list traffic had been very low. --> Priority of the work is finalizing the taxonomy document - - Role-types of B2BUAs (30 min) Presenter: Hadriel Kaplan Slides: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/85/slides/slides-85-straw-1.pdf Presentation of slide [slide 2] on traffic on list relating to taxonomy related to other drafts. Mary Barnes asked how of this applied to INSIPID. [Slide 7] Question as to whether this maintained on Cseq. Yes it does (the proxy-B2BUA has to rewrite CSeq) [Slide 8] Asked to be added by Andy Hutton. New SDP-Modifying Signaling only B2BUA was included in the draft. This B2BUA does not touch media, but does modify SDP Paul explained why this was needed Name unknown. Comment not heard. Andrew Allen - Mentioned NAT translators. Presenter now has example to put in the document. [Slide 13] Open Issues: Do we need to classify conference bridges? Mary Barnes: Does not think they should be included (It is a specific type of AS) Keith Drage: Agreed with Mary. Keep off service aware stuff. Not the PSTN with gateways etc. Jonathan: Conference servers should be left out. Andrew Allen, A Conf Server is at least "n" times a B2BUA. --> Agreement that we do not need to classify conference bridges/server in taxonomy document. Sohel Khan: What will we need in the future? Presenter: Taxonomy does not use for example PBX as part of the taxonomy definition, although sometimes used in the description. Presenter: Plan to submit and go to WGLC. --> Chairs indicated to start WGLC fairly shortly (in a couple of weeks). - - Technical discussion and open Mic (15 min) Hadriel Kaplan reminded meeting of other drafts, e.g. loop prevention. Chairs indicated would wait until completed taxonomy. Comments on these are welcome every time. - - End of Meeting Meeting closed 15:50.