Minutes for TICTOC and NTP WGs - IETF 87
Tuesday, 30 July 2013, 0900-1130 CEST (0700-0930 UTC)
========================================================

Karen O'Donoghue called the meeting to order. Co-chair 
Yaakov Stein participated remotely. 

1. Administrativia and Agenda Bashing

Karen O'Donoghue presented the Note Well slide and agenda. 
There were no proposed changes to the agenda

2. WG Status

Karen reported on the status of various wg documents. The 
following have completed WGLC and are being forwarded the 
IESG: 
     draft-ietf-tictoc-security-requirements
     draft-ietf-tictoc-ptp-mib

The follow has been proposed as an experimental working 
group item and is pending a charter update: 
     draft-shpiner-multi-path-synchronization-01

3. Enterprise profile for IEEE 1588
     draft-ietf-tictoc-ptp-enterprise-profile-00

Heiko Gerstung presented the update to the enterprise 
profile. There was some discussion about 1588 profiles 
being developed in other standards organizations and the 
coordination between these profiles. It is expected that 
with one more update, this document will be ready for WGLC. 

4. Transporting Timing messages over MPLS Networks         
     draft-ietf-tictoc-1588overmpls

Sharam Davari presented the latest update on the MPLS 
effort. This work continues to face some opposition. After 
much discussion, it was decided that Karen would present a 
request for review and contribution on the draft in the 
MPLS working group. (The result of that discussion in the 
MPLS WG, which occurred later in the week, is that the MPLS 
chairs would establish a review team, and a follow-on 
conference call would discuss the results of review.) 

5. NTP WG status and update

Karen provided an update on the status of the ntp working 
group. The following draft has been accepted as a wg item:
     draft-mizrahi-ntp-extension-field-02
Editors are being solicited for the NTP control protocol 
draft. 

6. Network Time Security (autokey replacement)
     draft-ietf-ntp-network-time-security-00

Dieter Sibold presented the updated network time security 
draft that addresses vulnerabilities in the ntp autokey 
protocol. A number of updates were made since the last 
IETF. Further review and discussion is requested from the 
ntp, tictoc, and ntp developer communities. An virtual 
interim may be scheduled to help facilitate discussions. 

7. Using UDP Checksum Trailers in NTP 
     draft-mizrahi-ntp-checksum-trailer-00

Tal Mizrahi provided an update on the above draft. There is 
working group interest to continue the development of this 
draft. Karen will talk to Brian about updating the charter. 

8.   IEEE 1588 update (O'Donoghue) 

Karen provided an update on the IEEE 1588 group. The PAR 
has been approved and the technical efforts are just 
getting underway. Five subcommittees have been established 
to progress the efforts: Maintenance, High Accuracy, 
Architecture, Security, and Management. Expect additional 
information in the future. 

9.   ITU-T SG15/Q13 update

Stefano Ruffini provided an update on the efforts of the 
ITU-T SG15/Q13 as part of the ongoing coordination between 
the two groups. 

The meeting adjourned.