IETF-89 geopriv minutes Session 2014-03-04 1300-1400: Park Suite - Audio stream - geopriv chatroom ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chair's intro & administrivia Presentation: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/slides/slides-89-geopriv-0.pdf Presenter: Ray Bellis Ray presented the agenda. There were no changes. Alyssa Cooper provided an update on draft-ietf-geopriv-policy-uri - there had a been a reference to a dead draft, which has since been fixed and the document is now going through process. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ draft-ietf-geopriv-uncertainty Presentation: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/slides/slides-89-geopriv-1.pdf Presenter: Martin Thomson A new applicability statement was added to the draft to address concerns raised at the last meeting. Roger Marshall had no objections to the applicability statement, and thought the draft was well written. He requested that the implicit value of 95% be made explicit. ACTION: Marc Linsner will read the draft to see if his concerns are addressed. On the resolution of what to say when the uncertainty is unknown, Martin will send a proposal to the list. Randall Gellens suggested that instead of using an actual number, something like "unknown" can be used. ACTION: Martin to send a proposal to the list on handling unknown uncertainty. Martin to update the document with Roger's feedback. After the document is updated, it will enter WGLC. The working group could be closed after charter items have been completed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Discussion about closing the working group Richard Barnes said that the mailing list could remain open for discussions after the working group is closed. New work could go to Dispatch or could be AD sponsored if the work is small. The working group could be rechartered as well. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Summary of Geonet BoF Alex Petrescu provided a summary of Geonet use cases (sending IP packets to a geographical location and tracking objects) and the bar-BoF discussion held with geopriv. Geonet is looking at various mechanisms including geopriv's. At the BoF, there was a discussion about creating compact pidf-lo. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thanking Gonzalo Camarillo On behalf of the Geopriv working group, Alissa presented Gonzalo with organic rooibos tea for his work as RAI AD. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fuzzing and location choice Nick Doty solicited information on location fuzzing and location choice for W3C. Brian Rosen and Martin said that work was done on it years ago, but the conclusion of the working group was that fuzzing didn't work. Denter(?) from Mozilla said that Mozilla would never ship anything with fuzzing. A user agent could provide location choice without following a specification. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Google Geofeeds Richard talked with Alissa and Ray about the document and he is thinking about AD sponsoring the doc. If anyone has comments, they should let Richard know.