CHAIR(s): 
    Joel Halpern
    Luigi Iannone

SECRETARY:
    Wassim Haddad
    Damien Saucez


Session 1/1 (120 Minutes)
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Thursday, April 7, 2016
1730-1930, Afternoon Session III, 120 Minutes
Room Atlantico B

- Administration        
   Halpern/Iannone
   - Blue Sheets
   - Agenda Bashing
   - Status reports for WG drafts

o WG Documents Update

- LCAF Draft Update - draft-ietf-lisp-lcaf-12
    D. Farinacci

	• Dino Farinacci asks if the document is ready.
	• Fabio Maino says the document is ready.
	• Chair asking the audience: there is no objection.


- LISP-crypto - draft-ietf-lisp-crypto-03
    D. Farinacci

	• new changes reflect discussion with crypto specialist and choice for high performance.
	• implementation show that in software it still offers good performances.
	• Dino Farinacci asks for other implementations to test.
	• Chair asking the audience if document is ready: no objection.


- LISP SF Multicast - draft-ietf-lisp-signal-free-multicast-00
    D. Farinacci
	• Robert Raszuk proposes to use LISP to implement multicast and let unicast as-is

o Non WG Items

- Open Overlay Router
    Fabio Maino (on behalf of A. Cabellos (excused))

	• Open Overlay Router is a re-focus of the LISPmob project from mobility to overlay router.
	• Joel Halpern asks if it is an alternative or a complement to large open source projects.
	• Fabio Maino explains that there is current effort to integrate fd.io and Open Overlay Router.


- ComCast IPv6 SR
    J. Brzozowski
	• presentation cancelled (excused)


- GPE-VPN - draft-maino-gpe-vpn-00.txt
    F. Maino

	• Discussion from the audience to clarity the next protocol field.
	• Joel Halpern reminds that the number of services will remain modest.


- Unified L2 and L3 overlays using the LISP control plane
    V. Moreno
	• Padma Pillay-Esnault: how long is a negative mapping kept? How fast to detect?
	• Victor Moreno: we keep until a timeout or SMR trigger
	• Padma Pillay-Esnault: might be an issue when mobility.
	• Dino Farinacci: when a device move, it does not leave it so when it re-attachs the network it will trigger a change. If the node is gone, then it is timeout.
	• Victor Moreno asks the group to review the draft and if the document is a good reference for the group.
	• Chairs: it is to early to talk about adoption
	• Dino Farinacci: it is important to keep in mind that everything moves (containers, VMs, … ). The big difference with lisp mn is that RLOCs and EIDs are not collocated in this L2/L3 overlay


- IANA Registry for LISP Packet Type Allocations - draft-boucadair-lisp-type-iana-00
    L. Iannone (on behalf of M. Boucadair)    
	• Fabio Maino: having an experimental type makes sense.
	• Dino Farinacci proposes to encode the type in JSON.

- LISP Mapping Service Discovery at Large - draft-boucadair-lisp-idr-ms-discovery-01
    S. Secci   (on behalf of M. Boucadair)    
	• Dino Farinacci: it is not a good idea to put overlay information in the underlay.
	• Dino Farinacci: to avoid import/export it would be better to use something like DDT and use instance-id to distinguish the different tenants.
	• Stefano Secci: the objective is to “automatically” connect independent mapping systems.
	• Robert Raszuk says that the problem is already solved with route servers.
	• Padma Pillay-Esnault says that using extended communities is dangerous as it should be per prefix and there is a risk of aggregation.