Minutes from pim at IETF 95 These are combined jabber log and minutes. 10:58:06 AM joel jaeggli: welcome to the pim working group 10:59:00 AM joel jaeggli: stig - speaking 10:59:26 AM joel jaeggli: agenda 11:02:44 AM joel jaeggli: first presentation - source discovery bsr Sumit Mukhopadhyay [_943578608@buenayrea.conf.meetecho.com/MeetechoWebLite] entered the room. (11:05:25 AM) 11:08:24 AM joel jaeggli: dino - did you consider advertising specific sources to reduce the amount of state e.g. subnet,g 11:09:22 AM joel jaeggli: stig - how many people have read this draft? 11:09:30 AM joel jaeggli: ok great few Anish Peter [_1510346300@buenayrea.conf.meetecho.com/MeetechoWebLite] entered the room. (11:09:41 AM) 11:10:08 AM joel jaeggli: dino - do it as a seperate protocol, modify the igp to advertise subnets as multicast capable 11:11:13 AM joel jaeggli: dino - you do have a mapping database you can use so that they don't have to be flooded Anish Peter left the room. (11:15:49 AM) 11:16:02 AM joel jaeggli: alvaro - 11:16:11 AM joel jaeggli: stig - we'll take it to the list 11:16:26 AM joel jaeggli: how many thing this is ready for last call? 11:17:23 AM joel jaeggli: next presentation - pim yang model Anish Peter [_1510346300@buenayrea.conf.meetecho.com/MeetechoWebLite] entered the room. (11:18:00 AM) 11:28:28 AM joel jaeggli: stig - thanks for work on this 11:28:49 AM joel jaeggli: there are a handfull of vendors on the design team 11:29:13 AM joel jaeggli: it might be that you implementation doesn't work with this so it's good to take a look 11:29:21 AM joel jaeggli: have you tried to get review of this 11:30:03 AM joel jaeggli: Xufeng Liu - yeah we'll do that 11:30:20 AM joel jaeggli: next presentation 11:30:21 AM joel jaeggli: draft-guo-pim-igmp-mld-yang-01 11:30:26 AM joel jaeggli: Feng Guo Payal Goyal [_513059560@buenayrea.conf.meetecho.com/MeetechoWebLite] entered the room. (11:33:39 AM) 11:37:57 AM joel jaeggli: stig - have you read this? two people 11:38:02 AM joel jaeggli: plus the authros 11:38:25 AM joel jaeggli: people in the dt are probably in favor 11:38:49 AM joel jaeggli: we should consider adoption as this is something we need. 11:38:57 AM joel jaeggli: confirming on mailing list 11:39:37 AM joel jaeggli: next preso 11:39:38 AM joel jaeggli: draft-anggawijaya-pim-resilient-gmp 11:39:51 AM joel jaeggli: Hermin Anggawijaya Payal Goyal left the room. (11:42:50 AM) Payal Goyal [_513059560@buenayrea.conf.meetecho.com/MeetechoWebLite] entered the room. (11:43:20 AM) cjbc left the room. (11:44:18 AM) 11:48:42 AM joel jaeggli: stig - we don't really need to update - if this is published it's no longer unown essages 11:49:48 AM Anish Peter: As the snooping devices are transit devices they may not still know about these ack meessages and may treat it as unknown 11:50:26 AM joel jaeggli: stig - how many people have read this draft? 11:51:21 AM joel jaeggli: stig - we have a charter item for mld to work better on wifi links Yi Zhang [850016260@buenayrea.conf.meetecho.com/MeetechoWebLite] entered the room. (11:51:58 AM) 11:52:16 AM joel jaeggli: lets try get some discussion on the mailing list 11:52:28 AM joel jaeggli: next preso 11:52:37 AM joel jaeggli: draft-allan-spring-mpls-multicast-framework-00 11:52:42 AM joel jaeggli: david allan evyncke left the room. (11:53:26 AM) Payal Goyal left the room. (11:56:37 AM) Payal Goyal [_513059560@buenayrea.conf.meetecho.com/MeetechoWebLite] entered the room. (11:59:24 AM) Christian Hopps left the room. (12:00:56 PM) 12:07:22 PM joel jaeggli: lucy yang - some new idea good - igp extensions have been proposed before Sumit Mukhopadhyay left the room. (12:07:26 PM) 12:07:47 PM joel jaeggli: david - we have exmplars in igp 12:08:29 PM joel jaeggli: stig - was going to talk about that, also in bier w.g.. generic igp extension that could work would be good 12:09:22 PM joel jaeggli: stig - who has read the draft 12:09:26 PM joel jaeggli: maybe 5 12:09:34 PM joel jaeggli: how many thing this is interesting work? 12:10:02 PM joel jaeggli: do in pim or spring? 12:10:11 PM joel jaeggli: dino - kinda uses a little of everything right 12:10:50 PM joel jaeggli: shepherd - that is a gap we often see 12:11:53 PM joel jaeggli: stig - please read the draft 12:11:58 PM joel jaeggli: one last presentation 12:12:09 PM joel jaeggli: draft-vyncke-pim-mld-security-01 12:12:20 PM joel jaeggli: Enno rey talking Nigel Bragg left the room. (12:14:37 PM) Meetecho left the room. (12:19:53 PM) 12:21:21 PM Payal Goyal: slides content are not visible properly ? 12:22:29 PM joel jaeggli: last slide deck is here 12:22:30 PM joel jaeggli: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/95/session/pim/ Rahul Aggarwal [1228535541@buenayrea.conf.meetecho.com/MeetechoWebLite] entered the room. (12:22:32 PM) 12:22:46 PM joel jaeggli: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/slides-95-pim-1/1/ 12:23:05 PM Payal Goyal: Okay.. Thanks.. (Y) 12:23:20 PM joel jaeggli: stig - adminsitrative point of view advice to implementors, a lot we can do there Rahul Aggarwal left the room. (12:23:52 PM) 12:24:14 PM joel jaeggli: dificult to get hosts upgraded 12:24:22 PM Anish Peter: hummmmm 12:24:37 PM joel jaeggli: noted Rahul Aggarwal [_409054785@buenayrea.conf.meetecho.com/MeetechoWebLite] entered the room. (12:24:46 PM) 12:25:42 PM joel jaeggli: stig - small things we can do to improve security without breaking anything 12:25:52 PM joel jaeggli: mld-guard might be useful 12:26:30 PM joel jaeggli: we're done