INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the August 13, 2009 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison Lisa Dusseault (Messaging Architects) / Applications Area Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area Adrian Farrel (Huawei) / Routing Area Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair John Leslie / Scribe Alexey Melnikov (Isode Limited) / Applications Area Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Dave Oran (Cisco) / IAB Liaison Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area REGRETS --------------------------------- Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area MINUTES --------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the July 16, 2009 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The narrative minutes of the July 16, 2009 Teleconference were Approved. The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved since the July 16, 2009 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-dkim-rfc4871-errata-07.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-l2tpext-circuit-status-extensions-05.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-monami6-multiplecoa-14.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-ospf-dynamic-hostname-05.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-pkix-3281update-05.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-pwe3-vccv-bfd-07.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-smime-rfc3852bis-00.txt (Draft Standard) o draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc2581bis-07.txt (Draft Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions o draft-housley-aes-key-wrap-with-pad-04.txt (Informational) o draft-ietf-nsis-ntlp-20.txt (Experimental) o draft-igoe-secsh-aes-gcm-03.txt (Informational) o draft-irtf-mobopts-location-privacy-solutions-16.txt (Experimental) o draft-sinnreich-sip-tools-07.txt (Informational) 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: o Ron Bonica to find an author to write a document that explains why additional private address space is not a good idea. DELETED: NONE IN PROGRESS: o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32. o Jari Arkko to continue discussion with Henrik Levkowetz about enabling proper filtering to email aliases existing on the tools server. NEW: o Robert Sparks to talk to Tom Taylor about Christian Groves taking over as MEGACO expert. o Lars Eggert to find someone to review the ANSI C12.22-2008 / IEEE P1703-2009 / MC1222 Application Layer messages over IP document. o Dan Romascanu to draft text for the IESG wiki about how to handle having two chairs from the same company. 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-rmt-bb-lct-revised-10.txt Layered Coding Transport (LCT) Building Block (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 13 Token: Magnus Westerlund The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Robert Sparks.* o draft-ietf-sieve-mime-loop-09.txt Sieve Email Filtering: MIME part Tests, Iteration, Extraction, Replacement and Enclosure (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 13 Token: Lisa Dusseault Alexey Melnikov formally recused himself from the discussion. The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Tim Polk.* o draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-end-of-lib-03.txt LDP End-of-LIB (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 13 Token: Adrian Farrel The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Lars Eggert and Robert Sparks.* o draft-ietf-netconf-partial-lock-09.txt Partial Lock RPC for NETCONF (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 13 Token: Dan Romascanu The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Pasi Eronen, Adrian Farrel, Alexey Melnikov, Tim Polk and Dan Romascanu.* o draft-ietf-nea-pa-tnc-04.txt PA-TNC: A Posture Attribute Protocol (PA) Compatible with TNC (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 13 Token: Tim Polk The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ralph Droms, Russ Housley and Alexey Melnikov.* o draft-ietf-nea-pb-tnc-04.txt PB-TNC: A Posture Broker Protocol (PB) Compatible with TNC (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 13 Token: Tim Polk The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ralph Droms, Russ Housley, Alexey Melnikov, Robert Sparks and Magnus Westerlund.* o draft-ietf-dime-diameter-qos-11.txt Diameter Quality of Service Application (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 13 Token: Dan Romascanu The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Adrian Farrel and Alexey Melnikov.* o draft-ietf-opsawg-syslog-snmp-05.txt Mapping Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP) Notifications to SYSLOG Messages (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 13 Token: Dan Romascanu The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Alexey Melnikov.* o draft-ietf-opsawg-syslog-msg-mib-05.txt Definitions of Managed Objects for Mapping SYSLOG Messages to Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP) Notifications (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 13 Token: Dan Romascanu The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Jari Arkko, Pasi Eronen, Adrian Farrel and Tim Polk.* o draft-ietf-l3vpn-as4octet-ext-community-03.txt Four-octet AS Specific BGP Extended Community (Proposed Standard) - 10 of 13 Token: Ross Callon The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Tim Polk.* o draft-ietf-mpls-tp-requirements-09.txt MPLS-TP Requirements (Proposed Standard) - 11 of 13 Token: Adrian Farrel The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Adrian Farrel. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ietf-l3vpn-v6-ext-communities-02.txt IPv6 Address Specific BGP Extended Communities Attribute (Proposed Standard) - 12 of 13 Token: Ross Callon The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Pasi Eronen and Tim Polk.* o draft-freed-sieve-in-xml-06.txt Sieve Email Filtering: Sieves and display directives in XML (Proposed Standard) - 13 of 13 Token: Lisa Dusseault The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Pasi Eronen and Russ Housley.* 2.1.2 Returning Item NONE 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item o draft-iana-rfc3330bis-08.txt Special Use IPv4 Addresses (BCP) - 1 of 1 Token: Russ Housley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Lars Eggert and Adrian Farrel.* 2.2.2 Returning Item o draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis-07.txt IESG Procedures for Handling of Independent and IRTF Stream Submissions (BCP) - 1 of 2 Token: Jari Arkko Russ Housley formally recused himself from the discussion. The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Jari Arkko.* o draft-dusseault-impl-reports-04.txt Guidance on Interoperation and Implementation Reports for Advancement to Draft Standard (BCP) - 2 of 2 Token: Tim Polk Lisa Dusseault and Robert Sparks formally recused themselves from the discussion. The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an RFC Editor Note prepared by Tim Polk. 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-ipfix-export-per-sctp-stream-03.txt IPFIX Export per SCTP Stream (Informational) - 1 of 2 Token: Dan Romascanu The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Lars Eggert, Adrian Farrel and Alexey Melnikov.* o draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-transport-04.txt Application of Ethernet Pseudowires to MPLS Transport Networks (Informational) - 2 of 2 Token: Ralph Droms The document was deferred to the next teleconference (August 27, 2009) by Ross Callon. 3.1.2 Returning Item NONE 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Item o draft-iana-special-ipv4-registry-02.txt IANA IPv4 Special Purpose Address Registry (Informational) - 1 of 1 Token: Russ Housley The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Russ Housley. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. 3.2.2 Returning Item o draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt Transport Layer Security (TLS) Authorization Extensions (Experimental) - 1 of 1 Token: Tim Polk Russ Housley formally recused himself from the discussion. The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Pasi Eronen and Alexey Melnikov.* 3.3 Independent Submissions Via IRTF 3.3.1 New Item NONE 3.3.2 Returning Item NONE 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review o Multicast Mobility (multimob) - 1 of 1 Token: Jari Arkko The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (August 27, 2009). 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval NONE 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review o Internationalized Domain Names in Applications, Revised (idnabis) - 1 of 1 Token: Lisa Dusseault The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter. The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (August 27, 2009). 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval o Mobility for IPv4 (mip4) - 1 of 1 Token: Jari Arkko The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group pending edits to the charter to be provided by Jari Arkko. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 5. IAB News We can use 6. Management Issue 6.1 IETF Review of ITU-T MPLS-TP Documents (Adrian Farrel) This management issue was removed from the agenda prior to the start of the teleconference. 6.2 Issue last call for Language Tag experts as per draft-ietf-ltru- 4646bis-23 (Alexey Melnikov) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the text for the Last Call for Language Tag experts as per draft-ietf-ltru-4646bis-23. 6.3 Status of 128.66.0.0/16 [IANA #256883] (Michelle Cotton) The management issue was discussed. 6.4 Expert for Megaco [IANA #257207] (Michelle Cotton) The management issue was discussed. Action Item: Robert Sparks to talk to Tom Taylor about Christian Groves taking over as MEGACO expert. 6.5 Approve expert reviewers for draft-ietf-calsify-rfc2445bis (Lisa Dusseault) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Bernard Desruisseaux and Cyrus Daboo as expert reviewers for draft-ietf- calsify-rfc2445bis. 6.6 Backup Media Type expert reviewer (Alexey Melnikov) The management issue was discussed. The IESG appointed Mark Baker (distobj@acm.org) as the backup Media type (MIME) Expert Reviewer. 6.7 ANSI C12.22-2008 / IEEE P1703-2009 / MC1222 Application Layer messages over IP (Russ Housley) The management issue was discussed. Action Item: Lars Eggert to find someone to review the ANSI C12.22- 2008 / IEEE P1703-2009 / MC1222 Application Layer messages over IP document. 6.8 Two chairs one company (Adrian Farrel) The management issue was discussed. Action Item: Dan Romascanu to draft text for the IESG wiki about how to handle having two chairs from the same company. 7. Working Group News ----------------------------------------------- * Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG