INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the September 10, 2009 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area Lisa Dusseault (Messaging Architects) / Applications Area Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area Adrian Farrel (Huawei) / Routing Area Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area John Leslie / Scribe Alexey Melnikov (Isode Limited) / Applications Area Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Dave Oran (Cisco) / IAB Liaison Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area REGRETS --------------------------------- Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD MINUTES --------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the August 27, 2009 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The narrative minutes of the August 27, 2009 Teleconference were Approved. The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved since the August 27, 2009 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-green-secsh-ecc-09.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-ippm-multimetrics-12.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-l3vpn-as4octet-ext-community-03.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dns-discovery-07.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-end-of-lib-04.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-opsawg-syslog-alarm-02.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-opsawg-syslog-msg-mib-06.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-opsawg-syslog-snmp-05.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-ospf-hmac-sha-07.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-pcn-marking-behaviour-05.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-rmt-bb-lct-revised-11.txt (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions o draft-ietf-pce-p2mp-app-02.txt (Informational) o draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-transport-04.txt (Informational) 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: NONE DELETED: NONE IN PROGRESS: o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32. o Lars Eggert to find someone to review the ANSI C12.22-2008 / IEEE P1703-2009 / MC1222 Application Layer messages over IP document. o Russ Housley to work with the Secretariat to come up with an implementation plan for tracking changes to working group charters. NEW: o Lisa Dusseault to investigate the request to add a new Atom Link Relation type for the PubSubHubbub protocol. o Magnus Westerlund to find an expert for LCT Header Extensions. 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-16ng-ip-over-ethernet-over-802-dot-16-11.txt Transmission of IP over Ethernet over IEEE 802.16 Networks (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 9 Token: Ralph Droms The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Jari Arkko.* o draft-ietf-mpls-3209-patherr-05.txt Node behavior upon originating and receiving Resource ReserVation Protocol (RSVP) Path Error message (BCP) - 2 of 9 Token: Adrian Farrel The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley, Tim Polk and Robert Sparks.* o draft-ietf-mpls-soft-preemption-18.txt MPLS Traffic Engineering Soft Preemption (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 9 Token: Adrian Farrel The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Adrian Farrel. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ietf-mpls-gmpls-lsp-reroute-04.txt PathErr Message Triggered MPLS and GMPLS LSP Reroute (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 9 Token: Adrian Farrel The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Robert Sparks.* o draft-ietf-dime-pmip6-03.txt Diameter Proxy Mobile IPv6: Mobile Access Gateway and Local Mobility Anchor Interaction with Diameter Server (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 9 Token: Dan Romascanu The document was deferred to the next teleconference (September 24, 2009) by Jari Arkko. o draft-ietf-dime-nai-routing-03.txt Diameter User-Name and Realm Based Request Routing Clarifications (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 9 Token: Dan Romascanu The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Jari Arkko.* o draft-ietf-mip4-generic-notification-message-11.txt Generic Notification Message for Mobile IPv4 (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 9 Token: Jari Arkko The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Jari Arkko on behalf of IANA, Ralph Droms, Alexey Melnikov, Tim Polk, Dan Romascanu and Robert Sparks.* o draft-ietf-pcn-baseline-encoding-06.txt Baseline Encoding and Transport of Pre-Congestion Information (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 9 Token: Lars Eggert The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Magnus Westerlund.* o draft-ietf-pwe3-segmented-pw-13.txt Segmented Pseudowire (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 9 Token: Ralph Droms The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Lars Eggert, Adrian Farrel, Russ Housley on behalf of IANA, Tim Polk and Magnus Westerlund.* 2.1.2 Returning Item NONE 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item o draft-rosenberg-sip-app-media-tag-04.txt A Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Media Feature Tag for MIME Application Sub-Types (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 2 Token: Robert Sparks The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-dawkins-nomcom-openlist-06.txt Nominating Committee Process: Open Disclosure of Willing Nominees (BCP) - 2 of 2 Token: Russ Housley The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement. 2.2.2 Returning Item o draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis-08.txt IESG Procedures for Handling of Independent and IRTF Stream Submissions (BCP) - 1 of 1 Token: Jari Arkko Russ Housley formally recused himself from the discussion. The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Jari Arkko.* 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-sipping-service-identification-03.txt Identification of Communications Services in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) (Informational) - 1 of 4 Token: Robert Sparks The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley.* o draft-ietf-hip-nat-traversal-08.txt Basic HIP Extensions for Traversal of Network Address Translators (Experimental) - 2 of 4 Token: Ralph Droms The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Jari Arkko.* o draft-ietf-eai-imap-utf8-08.txt IMAP Support for UTF-8 (Experimental) - 3 of 4 Token: Alexey Melnikov The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley.* o draft-ietf-alto-problem-statement-02.txt Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (ALTO) Problem Statement (Informational) - 4 of 4 Token: Lisa Dusseault The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Jari Arkko and Tim Polk.* 3.1.2 Returning Item NONE 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Item o draft-drage-sipping-service-identification-03.txt A Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Extension for the Identification of Services (Informational) - 1 of 1 Token: Robert Sparks The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Alexey Melnikov and Tim Polk.* 3.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor 3.3.1 New Item NONE 3.3.2 Returning Item o draft-ford-behave-top-07.txt Unintended Consequence of two NAT deployments with Overlapping Address Space (Informational) - 1 of 1 Token: Magnus Westerlund The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Editor that includes an RFC Editor Note prepared by Magnus Westerlund. 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review o Virtual World Region Agent Protocol (vwrap) - 1 of 1 Token: Alexey Melnikov The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to the charter to be provided by Alexey Melnikov. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new- work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (September 24, 2009). 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o SIP Common Log Format (sipclf) - 1 of 1 Token: Robert Sparks The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending additional text for the charter to be provided by Robert Sparks. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review o IP Flow Information Export (ipfix) - 1 of 3 Token: Dan Romascanu The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter. The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (September 24, 2009). o Security Issues in Network Event Logging (syslog) - 2 of 3 Token: Pasi Eronen The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. o Network Endpoint Assessment (nea) - 3 of 3 Token: Tim Polk The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter. The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (September 24, 2009). 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval o DNS Extensions (dnsext) - 1 of 1 Token: Ralph Droms The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 5. IAB News We can use 6. Management Issue 6.1 Appointment of Language Tag expert reviewer as per draft-ietf-ltru-4646bis-23 (Alexey Melnikov) The management issue was deferred to the next IESG Teleconference (September 24, 2009) by Alexey Melnikov. 6.2 Link Relations Request [IANA #259813] (Michelle Cotton) The management issue was discussed. The discussion will continue at the next IESG teleconference (September 24, 2009). Action item: Lisa Dusseault to investigate the request to add a new Atom Link Relation type for the PubSubHubbub protocol. 6.3 Approve Mark Nottingham as secondary expert for HTTP (Lisa Dusseault) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Mark Nottingham (mnot@pobox.com) as the secondary expert for the RFC 2616 (http-parameters) registry. 6.4 Expert for LCT Header Extensions [IANA #264752] (Michelle Cotton) The management issue was discussed. Action item: Magnus Westerlund to find an expert for LCT Header Extensions. 6.5 Order of boilerplate stuff in IDs (Cullen Jennings) The management issue was discussed. 6.6 Disclosure (Russ Housley) Russ Housley informed the IESG that he has been approached to take an unpaid Board of Directors position at Stellar Switches. 7. Working Group News ----------------------------------------------- * Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG