INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the January 21, 2010 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area Lisa Dusseault (Linden Labs) / Applications Area Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor liaison Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair John Leslie / Scribe Alexey Melnikov (Isode Limited) / Applications Area Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat REGRETS --------------------------------- Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe Adrian Farrel (Huawei) / Routing Area Dave Oran (Cisco) / IAB Liaison Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area MINUTES --------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the January 7, 2010 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The narrative minutes of the January 7, 2010 Teleconference were approved as amended. The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved since the January 7, 2010 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-eastlake-nlpid-iana-considerations-04.txt (BCP) o draft-ietf-ccamp-confirm-data-channel-status-09.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-dppm-11.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-fecframe-interleaved-fec-scheme-09.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-idnabis-tables-09.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-mboned-rfc3171bis-08.txt (BCP) o draft-ietf-sasl-gs2-20.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-tls-renegotiation-03.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-nottingham-site-meta-05.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ohba-pana-pemk-04.txt (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions o draft-ietf-eai-downgraded-display-03.txt (Experimental) o draft-ietf-idnabis-rationale-17.txt (Informational) o draft-ietf-ospf-manet-or-03.txt (Experimental) o draft-ietf-roll-home-routing-reqs-11.txt (Informational) 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: o Cullen Jennings and Alexey Melnikov to propose updated text for the response to the YAM working group in regards to rfc1652bis-pre- evaluation. DELETED: NONE IN PROGRESS: o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32. o Lars Eggert and Ron Bonica to propose text for determining when one document updates another. o Russ Housley will make sure that the documents that specify the I-D boilerplate get updated to reflect the new alternate text. NEW o Robert Sparks to check with the MMUSIC working group about what should be done with this media type registration and report back to the IESG at the next IESG teleconference (February 4, 2010). 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-behave-turn-uri-08.txt Traversal Using Relays around NAT (TURN) Resolution Mechanism (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 2 Token: Magnus Westerlund The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Pasi Eronen and Cullen Jennings.* o draft-ietf-6man-iana-routing-header-00.txt IANA Allocation Guidelines for the IPv6 Routing Header (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 2 Token: Ralph Droms Jari Arkko formally recused himself from the discussion. The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Ralph Droms. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. 2.1.2 Returning Item NONE 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item o draft-kato-tls-rfc4132bis-04.txt Camellia Cipher Suites for TLS (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 5 Token: Tim Polk The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Tim Polk. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-bryan-metalink-25.txt The Metalink Download Description Format (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 5 Token: Lisa Dusseault The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ralph Droms, Lars Eggert, Pasi Eronen, Alexey Melnikov and Tim Polk.* o draft-jabley-sink-arpa-03.txt The Eternal Non-Existence of SINK.ARPA (and other stories) (BCP) - 3 of 5 Token: Ralph Droms The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Magnus Westerlund.* o draft-jabley-reverse-servers-01.txt Nameservers for IPv4 and IPv6 Reverse Zones (BCP) - 4 of 5 Token: Ron Bonica The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ron Bonica and Magnus Westerlund.* o rfc3848.txt ESMTP and LMTP Transmission Types Registration (Draft Standard) - 5 of 5 Token: Alexey Melnikov The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement. 2.2.2 Returning Item o draft-moriarty-post-inch-rid-09.txt Real-time Inter-network Defense (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 2 Token: Tim Polk The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Lisa Dusseault, Cullen Jennings, Alexey Melnikov, Dan Romascanu and Robert Sparks.* o draft-atlas-icmp-unnumbered-09.txt Extending ICMP for Interface and Next-hop Identification (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 2 Token: Jari Arkko Ron Bonica formally recused himself from the discussion. The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement. 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-nsis-qos-nslp-17.txt NSLP for Quality-of-Service Signaling (Experimental) - 1 of 6 Token: Magnus Westerlund The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ross Callon.* o draft-ietf-nsis-qspec-23.txt QoS NSLP QSPEC Template (Experimental) - 2 of 6 Token: Magnus Westerlund The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Tim Polk.* o draft-ietf-hokey-preauth-ps-11.txt Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP) Early Authentication Problem Statement (Informational) - 3 of 6 Token: Tim Polk The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-pkix-new-asn1-07.txt New ASN.1 Modules for PKIX (Informational) - 4 of 6 Token: Tim Polk The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Alexey Melnikov.* o draft-ietf-l3vpn-e2e-rsvp-te-reqts-05.txt Requirements for supporting Customer RSVP and RSVP-TE over a BGP/MPLS IP-VPN (Informational) - 5 of 6 Token: Ross Callon The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-08.txt CAPWAP Protocol Base MIB (Informational) - 6 of 6 Token: Dan Romascanu The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Pasi Eronen.* 3.1.2 Returning Item NONE 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Item o draft-gennai-smime-cnipa-pec-05.txt Certified Electronic Mail (Informational) - 1 of 4 Token: Tim Polk The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ron Bonica, Russ Housley and Alexey Melnikov.* o draft-ietf-pana-preauth-08.txt Pre-authentication Support for PANA (Experimental) - 2 of 4 Token: Jari Arkko The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Pasi Eronen and Magnus Westerlund.* o draft-bryan-http-digest-algorithm-values-update-04.txt Additional Hash Algorithms for HTTP Instance Digests (Informational) - 3 of 4 Token: Lisa Dusseault The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-brown-versioning-link-relations-06.txt Link Relations for Simple Version Navigation (Informational) - 4 of 4 Token: Lisa Dusseault The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Lisa Dusseault. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. 3.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor 3.3.1 New Item NONE 3.3.2 Returning Item NONE 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o Messaging Abuse Reporting Format (marf) - 1 of 4 Token: Alexey Melnikov The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the addition of chairs and edits to the text for the charter to be provided by Alexey Melnikov. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. o BiDirectional or Server-Initiated HTTP (hybi) - 2 of 4 Token: Lisa Dusseault The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. o Internet Wideband Audio Codec (codec) - 3 of 4 Token: Cullen Jennings The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the addition of chairs to be provided by Cullen Jennings. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. o Internationalized Resource Identifiers (iri) - 4 of 4 Token: Alexey Melnikov The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review o Audio/Video Transport (avt) - 1 of 1 Token: Robert Sparks The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter pending edits to the text to be supplied by Robert Sparks. The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (February 4, 2010). 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval o Network-Based Mobility Extensions (netext) - 1 of 1 Token: Jari Arkko The charter was discussed. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (February 4, 2010). 5. IAB News We can use 6. Management Issues 6.1 IAOC Candidate Confirmation (Executive Session) (Russ Housley) The management issue was discussed. The IESG confirmed the candidate provided by the NomCom. 6.2 Registration of media type application/iptv_rtsp (Alexey Melnikov) The management issue was discussed. Action item: Robert Sparks to check with the MMUSIC working group about what should be done with this media type registration and report back to the IESG at the next IESG teleconference (February 4, 2010). 6.3 Approval of IANA expert reviewer for the RObust Header Compression (ROHC) Profile Identifiers registry (Magnus Westerlund) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Carl Knutsson (carl.knutsson@effnet.com) as the expert reviewer for the RObust Header Compression (ROHC) Profile Identifiers registry. 6.4 Expediting draft-ietf-tls-renegotiation (Pasi Eronen) The management issue was discussed. The IESG informally asked the RFC Editor to expedite the editing of this document. 6.5 Adding WG secretaries to the WG chairs list (Adrian Farrel) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved adding working group secretaries to the wgchairs email list. 6.6 IESG statement on editorship and authorship (Dan Romascanu) The management issue was discussed. The IESG decided not to publish this IESG statement. 6.7 Validity of downreferences in rfc1652bis (Alexey Melnikov) The management issue was not discussed because a response was already sent to the YAM working group. 6.8 Are IANA experts anonymous (Cullen Jennings) The management issue was discussed. IANA is changing their procedures to be more transparent. 6.9 IESG feedback on Service over Cloud-based System (SOCS) BOF proposal needed (Alexey Melnikov) The management issue was discussed. 6.10 IESG expectations for IESG tracker rewrite (Pasi Eronen) The management issue was discussed. 7. Working Group News ----------------------------------------------- * Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG