INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) 
Minutes of the February 18, 2010 IESG Teleconference 

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat 

ATTENDEES
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area 
Stewart Bryant (Cisco) / Incoming AD for Routing Area
Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
Gonzalo Camarillo / Incoming AD for RAI Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison 
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area 
Lisa Dusseault (Linden Labs) / Applications Area 
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area
Adrian Farrel (Huawei) / Routing Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor liaison  
David Harrington (HuaweiSymantec) / Incoming AD for Transport Area
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area 
Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Alexey Melnikov (Isode Limited) / Applications Area 
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Dave Oran (Cisco) / IAB Liaison
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Peter Saint-Andre (Cisco) / Incoming AD for Applications Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Sean Turner (IECA, Inc.) / Incoming AD for Security Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area 

REGRETS 
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Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area 
Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe 
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair 
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD 

MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 

1.1 Approval of the Minutes 

The minutes of the February 4, 2010 Teleconference were approved.  
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 

The narrative minutes of the February 4, 2010 Teleconference were  
approved as amended.  The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes 
in the public archives. 

1.2 Documents Approved since the February 4, 2010 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions 
 o draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-ipfix-export-per-sctp-stream-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-ospf-af-alt-10.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-rohc-ikev2-extensions-hcoipsec-12.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-rohc-ipsec-extensions-hcoipsec-08.txt (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions 
 o draft-hammer-oauth-10.txt (Informational)
 o draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-09.txt (Informational)
 o draft-ietf-rohc-hcoipsec-13.txt (Informational)
 o draft-turner-clearancesponsor-attribute-03.txt (Informational)
 o draft-turner-deviceowner-attribute-03.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items 

DONE:
 o Jari Arkko to find a designated expert for RFC 5494.  
 o Jari Arkko to find a reference for protocol value 41.

DELETED: 
 NONE

IN PROGRESS: 
 o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32.  
 o Ron Bonica to propose text for determining when one document updates
   another.
 o Lars Eggert to find a designated expert for RFC 5661.

NEW
 o Ralph Droms and Adrian Farrel to update the wiki to reflect 
   circumstances in which implementation is desired before 
   standardization.
 o Jari Arkko to ask Phil Roberts if he is willing to serve as the 
   designated expert for RFC 5563.  If not, Jari will find an 
   expert.
 o Jari Arkko and Ralph Droms to work with Michelle Cotton to find a 
   new multicast expert.

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items
 o draft-ietf-geopriv-lis-discovery-13
   Discovering the Local Location Information Server (LIS) (Proposed
   Standard) - 1 of 5
   Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ralph Droms, Lars Eggert, Pasi Eronen, Adrian Farrel, 
Alexey Melnikov and Robert Sparks.*

 o draft-ietf-geopriv-geo-uri-04
   A Uniform Resource Identifier for Geographic Locations ('geo' URI)
   (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 5
   Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Lisa Dusseault, Lars Eggert, Alexey 
Melnikov, Tim Polk and Robert Sparks.*

 o draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-dcsc-channel-ext-03
   Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) Data Channel Switching Capable (DCSC) and
   Channel Set Label Extensions (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 5
   Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Magnus Westerlund.*

 o draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv4-vendor-message-01
   DHCPv4 Vendor-specific Message (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 5
   Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen, Adrian Farrel, Russ Housley, Alexey 
Melnikov, Dan Romascanu and Robert Sparks.*

 o draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-vendor-message-01
   DHCPv6 Vendor-specific Message (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 5
   Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel, Russ Housley, Cullen Jennings, Alexey 
Melnikov and Robert Sparks.*

2.1.2 Returning Items
 o draft-ietf-avt-app-rtp-keepalive-07
   Application Mechanism for maintaining alive the Network Address
   Translator (NAT) mappings associated to RTP flows. (Proposed
   Standard) - 1 of 2
   Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk, Robert Sparks and Magnus Westerlund.*

 o draft-ietf-trill-rbridge-protocol-15
   Rbridges: Base Protocol Specification (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 2
   Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel and Tim Polk.*

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items
 o draft-allbery-afs-srv-records-04
   DNS SRV Resource Records for AFS (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1
   Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk and Robert Sparks.*

2.2.2 Returning Items
 NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items
 o draft-ietf-tcpm-icmp-attacks-10
   ICMP attacks against TCP (Informational) - 1 of 4
   Token: Lars Eggert

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk and Dan Romascanu.*

 o draft-ietf-ecrit-location-hiding-req-02
   Location Hiding: Problem Statement and Requirements (Informational) 
   - 2 of 4
   Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley, Tim Polk and Dan Romascanu.*

 o draft-ietf-pce-p2mp-req-05
   PCC-PCE Communication Requirements for Point to Multipoint
   Multiprotocol Label Switching Traffic Engineering (MPLS-TE)
   (Informational) - 3 of 4
   Token: Ross Callon

Adrian Farrel formally recused himself from the discussion.  The 
document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

 o draft-ietf-mpls-tp-nm-framework-04
   MPLS-TP Network Management Framework (Informational) - 4 of 4
   Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk and Dan Romascanu.*

3.1.2 Returning Items
 NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items

 o draft-zorn-radius-pkmv1-10
   RADIUS Attributes for IEEE 802.16 Privacy Key Management Version 1
   (PKMv1) Protocol Support (Informational) - 1 of 1
   Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen, Adrian Farrel and Tim Polk.*

3.2.2 Returning Items
 NONE

3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor
3.3.1 New Items
 NONE

3.3.2 Returning Items
 NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
 o Session Recording Protocol (srp) - 1 of 2
   Token: Cullen Jennings

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review as "SIP Recording
(SIPREC)."  The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a 
separate message to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the 
WG on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (March 4, 2010).

 o Constrained RESTful Environments (core) - 2 of 2
   Token: Lisa Dusseault

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review.  The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference (March 4, 2010).

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
 o Keying and Authentication for Routing Protocols (karp) - 1 of 2
   Token: Ross Callon

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending edits to
the text of the charter to be provided by Ross Callon.  The Secretariat 
will send a WG Action announcement. 

 o Peer to Peer Streaming Protocol (ppsp) - 2 of 2
   Token: Lars Eggert

The IESG decided not to approve the charter for the working group at 
this time.  The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference (March 4, 2010).

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review
 o ADSL MIB (adslmib) - 1 of 1
   Token: Dan Romascanu

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter.
The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a 
separate message to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the 
WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (March 4, 2010).


4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
 o IP Security Maintenance and Extensions (ipsecme) - 1 of 2
   Token: Pasi Eronen

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group pending 
edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Pasi Eronen.  The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 

 o Inter-Domain Routing (idr) - 2 of 2
   Token: Ross Callon

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group pending 
edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Ross Callon.  The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 

5. IAB News We can use

6. Management Issue
6.1 Registration of media type application/iptv_rtsp (Alexey Melnikov, 
    Robert Sparks)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG denied the registration 
request.

6.2 Expert for RFC 5563 [IANA #299221] (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.

Action Item: Jari Arkko to ask Phil Roberts if he is willing to serve 
as the designated expert for RFC 5563.  If not, Jari will find an 
expert.

6.3 Expert for draft-nottingham-http-link-header [IANA #294442] 
    (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Mark Nottingham 
(mnot@mnot.net) and Eran Hammer-Lehav (eran@hueniverse.net) as the 
designated experts for draft-nottingham-http-link-header, pending their 
acceptance of the appointment.

6.4 Independent Submissions -- IESG Notes Review (Sandy Ginoza)

The management issue was discussed.

6.5 netlmm ipv4 doc re-review (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed.

6.6 77th Agenda (Wanda Lo)

The management issue was discussed.

6.7 Multicast Expert (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Jari Arkko and Ralph Droms to work with Michelle Cotton to 
find a new multicast expert.

7. Working Group News

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