IPsecME WG Virtual Interim Meeting, 2013-05-16 Minutes taken by Paul Hoffman Yaron gave introduction Introduction superfluous We have little energy Maybe the draft should be individual draft with discussion on the list Valery: is OK with this being Individual Submission Yoav: wants it to be a WG document Cisco has its own running code that is non-interoperable Brian: Cisco would have to do the eventual result anyway Yoav: Cisco is more likely to implement if they were part of the discussion Yaron wonders if this is a problem that needs to be resolved Yoav: yes, and would rather work with an RFC Tero: the problem is still there, but it just won't be TCP The WG needs to have implementers reviews at the start Yaron: do we want to stay with the current TCP-based solution? Brian: might be running on sensors that don't have a TCP stack Yoav: even he won't implement it Yaron: is Valery's draft better than what several non-standard implementations of what IKEv1 did Yoav: just copying what IKEv1 did is probably wrong; doesn't know Valery: they implemented for IKEv1 based on Microsoft's implementation If we introduce negotiation in IKEv2, it won't be exactly the same The implementation will be different, but similar Brian: it looks very similar but using a Notify for signaling, which is an advantage Next steps: Ask the WG Abandon IKE TCP Adopt Valery's draft Blue sheet: Brian Weis Daneil Migault Paul Hoffman Tero Kivinen Valery Smyslov Yaron Sheffer Yoav Nir