INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the September 14, 2017 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Alia Atlas (Juniper) / Routing Area Ignas Bagdonas / Scribe Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area Ben Campbell / Applications and Real-Time Area Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison Spencer Dawkins (Wonder Hamster Internetworking) / Transport Area Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison Ted Hardie (Google) / IAB Chair Suresh Krishnan (Kaloom) / Internet Area Mirja Kuehlewind (ETH Zurich) / Transport Area Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area John Leslie / Scribe Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Kathleen Moriarty (Dell EMC) / Security Area Eric Rescorla (Mozilla) / Security Area Alvaro Retana (Cisco) / Routing Area Adam Roach (Mozilla) / Applications and Real-Time Area Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Suzanne Woolf / IAB Liaison REGRETS --------------------------------- Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor Susan Hares / Scribe Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe OBSERVERS --------------------------------- Ben Kaduk Greg Wood MINUTES --------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the August 31, 2017 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The narrative minutes of the August 17, 2017 and August 31, 2017 Teleconferences were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved since the August 31, 2017 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-homenet-dot-14 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-pce-pceps-18 (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Action o draft-ietf-mpls-tp-temporal-hitless-psm-14 (Informational) 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: o Spencer Dawkins to produce a draft e-mail and wiki text for the BOF Wiki, describing "maps and gaps." o Deborah Brungard to find a designated expert for RFC 8227 [IANA #981088]. o Alia Atlas to find designated expert(s) for RFC 7557 [IANA #971118]. IN PROGRESS: NONE NEW: NONE 2. Protocol actions 2.1 WG submissions 2.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-etree-13 - IETF stream E-TREE Support in EVPN & PBB-EVPN (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 6 Token: Alvaro Retana The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Eric Rescorla.* o draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-mrt-06 - IETF stream LDP Extensions to Support Maximally Redundant Trees (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 6 Token: Deborah Brungard Alia Atlas formally recused herself from the discussion. The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Deborah Brungard. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ext-info-13 - IETF stream Extension Negotiation in Secure Shell (SSH) (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 6 Token: Eric Rescorla The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Adam Roach.* o draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-modp-dh-sha2-07 - IETF stream More Modular Exponential (MODP) Diffie-Hellman (DH) Key Exchange (KEX) Groups for Secure Shell (SSH) (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 6 Token: Eric Rescorla The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Eric Rescorla. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-dh-group-exchange-05 - IETF stream Increase SSH minimum recommended DH modulus size to 2048 bits (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 6 Token: Eric Rescorla The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Eric Rescorla. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-curdle-des-des-des-die-die-die-04 - IETF stream Deprecate 3DES and RC4 in Kerberos (Best Current Practice) - 6 of 6 Token: Eric Rescorla The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Mirja Kuehlewind.* 2.1.2 Returning items NONE 2.2 Individual submissions 2.2.1 New items NONE 2.2.2 Returning items NONE 2.3 Status changes 2.3.1 New items NONE 2.3.2 Returning items NONE 3. Document actions 3.1 WG submissions 3.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-rmcat-coupled-cc-06 - IETF stream Coupled congestion control for RTP media (Experimental) - 1 of 3 Token: Mirja Kuehlewind The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Mirja Kuehlewind. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-taps-transports-usage-08 - IETF stream On the Usage of Transport Features Provided by IETF Transport Protocols (Informational) - 2 of 3 Token: Spencer Dawkins The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Spencer Dawkins. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-taps-transports-usage-udp-06 - IETF stream Features of the User Datagram Protocol (UDP) and Lightweight UDP (UDP- Lite) Transport Protocols (Informational) - 3 of 3 Token: Spencer Dawkins The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Spencer Dawkins. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. 3.1.2 Returning items NONE 3.2 Individual submissions via AD 3.2.1 New items NONE 3.2.2 Returning items NONE 3.3 Status changes 3.3.1 New items NONE 3.3.2 Returning items NONE 3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents 3.4.1 New items o conflict-review-schmitt-ipfix-tiny-01 IETF conflict review for draft-schmitt-ipfix-tiny draft-schmitt-ipfix-tiny-03 TinyIPFIX for smart meters in constrained networks (ISE: Informational) - 1 of 1 Token: Benoit Claise The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response prepared by Benoit Claise. 3.4.2 Returning items NONE 4. Working Group actions 4.1 WG creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review o DNS Over HTTPS (doh) - 1 of 1 Area: ART (Adam Roach) The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (September 28, 2017). 4.1.2 Proposed for approval NONE 4.2 WG rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review o Network File System Version 4 (nfsv4) - 1 of 1 Area: TSV (Spencer Dawkins) The revised charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Benoit Claise.* 4.2.2 Proposed for approval NONE 5. IAB news we can use 6. Management issues 6.1 Discussion of Valimail offer to analyze DMARC reports for ietf.org domain (Alexey Melnikov) The management issue was discussed. 6.2 [IANA #982196] Designated expert for RFC 8175 (Amanda Baber / IANA) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Stan Ratliff and Rick Taylor as the designated experts for RFC 8175. 6.3 [IANA #981088] Designated expert for RFC 8227 (Deborah Brungard) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Weiqiang Cheng and Jie Dong as the designated experts for RFC 8277. 6.4 [IANA #971118] Designated expert for RFC 7557 (Alia Atlas) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Juliusz Chroboczek and Donald Eastlake as the designated experts for RFC 7557. 7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.) ----------------------------------------------- * Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.