ALTO Virtual Interim Meeting Dec-11-2018 1300 - 1500 CET Attendees: ~16 Raw notes taken by Kai Gao and Vijay K. Gurbani Intro and agenda bash (slides at [1]) - alto-cost-calendar and alto-xdom in IESG evaluation. - alto-incr-updates in WGLC - as WG docs: alto-cdn-fci, alto-path-vector, alto-unified-props-new Agenda bashed and accepted. Plea by chairs to focus on finishing current charter work as soon as possible. alto-cost-calendar (slides at [2]) Sabine briefed the WG on the status of the draft. It appears that IESG needs a revised I-D to take care of two DISCUSS items: one is related to IPR and the second is related to design issue (see slides 4-6 of [2]). Some discussion ensued on how to proceed with respect to soliciting the changes resulting from the DISCUSSes in the WG. It was decided that a new I-D will be produced and a new WGLC will occur in the WG to ensure that the changes from the existing DISCUSS are okay. Subsequent to the new WGLC, the document will be sent back to the IESG. alto-unified-props-new (slides at [3]) Jensen presented the work. Sabine had some comments on the difference between identifiers and property names. Discussion ensued at mic, and it was subsequently decided that: - Sabine to post the question on mailing list; - Sabine and Jensen drive consensus to close/answer the question; - A new I-D reflecting the consensus appears in the archives; - Pursuant to above, chairs to issue a WGLC on the new I-D. alto-incr-update-sse (slides at [4]) The draft has been in WGLC for a while. Richard noted a couple of places where the WG attention is needed: - Whether the new Section 11 should be moved to the appendix? - What to do if the media type has commas (which are not allowed in current text). Regarding the first issue, some discussion ensued, but no particular consensus reached on whether Section 11 should be moved. Richard to close this issue on the WG mailing list. Regarding the second issue, Richard to send email to IANA media type expert and reach an equitable solution. Pursuant to the above two issues being closed, the WG can move this draft out of WGLC and towards IESG. alto-path-vector (slides at [5]) Richard went through the work. Some discussion ensued between Richard and Kai on why costmap/propmap in the request if the response is always multipart? In the interest of time, this discussion was requested to be moved to the list. Vijay noted that the draft needed an in-depth review before we move to WGLC. It was pointed out that Sabine has done such a review. Will move to WGLC once the discussion between Richard and Kai comes to a consensus. alto-cdni-request-routing-alto (slides at [6]) Shawn presented the document and informed the WG that he may not be able to finish the work as the draft may benefit from some new optimization work. There was general discussion that coalesced around the fact that Shawn should wrap up this document in its current form to attend to cdni footprints and leave optimizations for a later revision to the RFC-to-be. That seemed to be agreeable to Shawn. Shawn to drive the work to completion. The remaining drafts were individual drafts. zhang-alto-multipart (slides at [7]) Jensen presented the work and ask two questions: - Should we design a domain-specific query language for ALTO? - How interested would the WG be in such work? Clearly, what to do with this work is a question that can start to be answered once ALTO is done with its current charter. The work looks interesting in general. xiang-alto-multidomain-analytics (slides at [8]) Qiao presented the work. Vijay commented that this is really interesting work that has informed both the academic community (SC 18) and the ALTO WG. Mirja noted that the work is not in the current ALTO charter, but that due to the applicability of the work to ALTO, the work could conceivably proceed in the IESG stream. lachosrothenberg-alto-brokermdo (slides at [9]) Danny presented the work. Vijay noted that there are some concrete extensions to ALTO worth exploration. However, any such discussion will need to be undertaken after the WG is done with the current charter deliverables. References [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2018-alto-01/materials/slides-interim-2018-alto-01-sessa-chair-slides.pdf [2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2018-alto-01/materials/slides-interim-2018-alto-01-sessa-cost-calendar [3] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2018-alto-01/materials/slides-interim-2018-alto-01-sessa-alto-unified-properties [4] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2018-alto-01/materials/slides-interim-2018-alto-01-sessa-alto-incremental-updates-using-server-sent-events-sse [5] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2018-alto-01/materials/slides-interim-2018-alto-01-sessa-alto-extension-path-vector [6] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2018-alto-01/materials/slides-interim-2018-alto-01-sessa-alto-cdni-fci [7] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2018-alto-01/materials/slides-interim-2018-alto-01-sessa-alto-multiple-resource-query [8] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2018-alto-01/materials/slides-interim-2018-alto-01-sessa-alto-use-case-resource-orchestration-for-multi-domain-geo-distributed-data-analytics [9] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2018-alto-01/materials/slides-interim-2018-alto-01-sessa-alto-based-broker-assisted-multi-domain-orchestration