CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting June 25, 2019 20:00 UTC INFO: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-cellar-05/session/cellar https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-cellar-05-sessa/ WEB CONFERENCE: https://appear.in/cellar-interim THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try this at any time.) These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes Present: 1) Michael Richardson 2) Moritz Bunkus 3) Martin Below 4) Steve Lhomme 5) Dave Rice 6) Jérôme Martinez Regrets: 1) Reto Kromer 1. Note Well. 2. Accept draft minutes from May 28 meeting accepted without change. 3. Logistics for Meeting. 2a) Etherpad for notes https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual?useMonospaceFont=true 2b) APPEAR.IN for video and screen sharing. https://appear.in/cellar-interim 2c) Roll call 4. WG status update * MCR still need to help Martin on large pull request. * EBML changes... done. + issue #257, requested one more day to think about it. The changes are fine in general, but want to make sure it precise enough. (MB) * ffv1 has been submitted to IESG by AD. 5. Work on Matroska issues. 48 open issues 21 open pull requests https://github.com/cellar-wg/matroska-specification/issues Next time, Steve will walk us through XSLT code to validate the specification. TAG: "format extension" suggestion that does not have to go into the main spec, because it could be added as separate spec https://github.com/cellar-wg/matroska-specification/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22format+extension%22 "format addition" something that has to go into main specification. https://github.com/cellar-wg/matroska-specification/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22format+addition%22 * As the WebM will not be defined, remove all of the WebM specific stuff. * MCR suggests removing it from the Matroska document, and leave the history for others. * MB: DivX is also not part of Matroska. Also concerned about how the Matroska project presents the WebM/DiVX vs core Matroska elements. The spec will be huge, so take things out. * define how to add unpredictable data to the Matroska, so we could track things that are added. Not just WebM, but also a libmotrsaka as well. * extension data would be on their own lines, and revision history would be clearly. 6. Any other business. ==== CELLAR -- DRAFT MINUTES for Virtual Interim Meeting May 28, 2019 20:00 UTC INFO: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-cellar-04/session/cellar https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-cellar-04-sessa/ WEB CONFERENCE: https://appear.in/cellar-interim THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN You can try this at any time. These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes Present: 1) michael richardson 2) Steve Lhomme 3) Martin Below 4) Jerome Martinez 5) Dave Rice 6) Michael Niedermayer Proposed Agenda: 1. Note Well. 2. Accept draft minutes from April 2 meeting 3. Logistics for Meeting. 2a) Etherpad for notes https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual?useMonospaceFont=true 2b) APPEAR.IN for video and screen sharing. https://appear.in/cellar-interim (as agreed last meeting) 2c) Roll call 4. WG status update - EBML seems to be getting some additional edits, is it done? These were the issues that are waiting for clarification: https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Aclarifications We still have a few open. Can we close them now? Dave Rice expected to push version 10.... VERSION 10 released 2019-05-28 (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cellar-ebml/10/). Merged many issues. This addresses AD issues from Ben Campbell and Robert Sparks.... remaining 2 11.1.11. XML Schema for EBML Schema (Dave volunteers to complete this) The following "XSD" definition is in (add W3C citation), and can be used to validate an EBML Schema using The use of unknown-size requires to know the EBML Schema. Add an example of unknown-size element. Michael will contact Martin in the coming days/weeks to work on his large chapter pull request. 5. Matroska document changes since last meeting. https://github.com/cellar-wg/matroska-specification/issues Can we close some of these, and/or get them sorted and prioritized? a) Dave Rice to post request for volunteers, offers to mentor. b) MCR to mentor Martin on github-fu c) all to review pull requests on Matroska, look for conflicts and *discussion* (new tag) that we can go through next time. d) MCR to ping Moritz about next time. 6. Started 4-week adopting call for Free Lossless Audio Codec draft-weaver-cellar-flac-00 will end at next virtual-interim meeting. please post your opinion about the document? Does it fit into what the charter asked for? Q: ffv1. last meeting new AD? A: we are waiting for feedback. ACTION: mcr to bug AD about ffv1. meeting ended 16:55.