CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting August 27, 2019 19:00 UTC 21:00 Amsterdam 15:00 NYC 12:00 San Francisco NOTE this is one hour earlier than last time! INFO: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-cellar-07/session/cellar https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-cellar-07-sessa/ WEB CONFERENCE: https://appear.in/cellar-interim THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try this at any time.) These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes 1. Note Well. 2. Accept draft minutes from July 30 meeting (attached below) 3. Logistics for Meeting. 2a) Etherpad for notes https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual?useMonospaceFont=true 2b) APPEAR.IN is not called "whereby.com" https://whereby.com/cellar-interim 2c) Roll call 4. WG status update * EBML -- still waiting on revised -11 document for AD evaluation. We had a lot of conversation last time about solving this logjam. Much work on it 2019-08-26, is it done? 5. Remining EBML issues, hoping for none. Issue #279 https://github.com/cellar-wg/ebml-specification/issues/279 Pull request: https://github.com/cellar-wg/ebml-specification/pull/281 5. Work on Matroska issues. 6. Any other business. ==== CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting July 30, 2019 20:00 UTC Present: 1) Michael Richardson 2) Timothy B. Terriberry 3) Steve Lhomme 4) Martin Below 5) Dave Rice 6) Michael Niedermeier Regrets: Jerome Martinez INFO: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-cellar-06/session/cellar https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-cellar-06-sessa/ WEB CONFERENCE: https://appear.in/cellar-interim THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try this at any time.) These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes 1. Note Well. https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/ 2. Accept draft minutes from June 25 meeting (attached below) No objections/changes, minutes passed. 3. Logistics for Meeting. 2a) Etherpad for notes https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual?useMonospaceFont=true 2b) APPEAR.IN for video and screen sharing. https://appear.in/cellar-interim 2c) Roll call 4. WG status update * EBML -- still waiting on revised -11 document for AD evaluation. ACTION from last time: ==> issue #257, requested one more day to think about it. The changes are fine in general, but want to make sure it precise enough. (MB) We created issue #279 to introduce some new text to better explain what a Global Element is, and why it does not end an unlimited size Element. * Thank for reposting of draft-ietf-cellar-tags-02, draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-03 and draft-ietf-cellar-codec-02 * The personal draft-weaver-cellar-flac-00 did not get reposted. I believe that we adopted it, so it should have been reposted with a draft-ietf-cellar-flac-00! reposted today, thank you. 5. Any remining EBML issues. none known. 6. ffv1-07 could be reposted in v3 format. ACTION: mcr to ask DataTracker and RSE if they are ready for this. 7. Work on Matroska issues. Closed issue #325 (merged). Discussed issue #334 and related issue #308. 8. Any other business. Matroska Pull request #318 will be on the agenda for next time. Meeting will be moved to an hour earlier, until the time changes. Currently it is 23:00 Berlin, so we will anchor the meeting to 22:00 Berlin time. ==== CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting June 25, 2019 20:00 UTC INFO: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2019-cellar-05/session/cellar https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2019-cellar-05-sessa/ WEB CONFERENCE: https://appear.in/cellar-interim THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try this at any time.) These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes Present: 1) Michael Richardson 2) Moritz Bunkus 3) Martin Below 4) Steve Lhomme 5) Dave Rice 6) Jérôme Martinez Regrets: 1) Reto Kromer 1. Note Well. 2. Accept draft minutes from May 28 meeting accepted without change. 3. Logistics for Meeting. 2a) Etherpad for notes https://etherpad.tools.ietf.org/p/notes-cellar-virtual?useMonospaceFont=true 2b) APPEAR.IN for video and screen sharing. https://appear.in/cellar-interim 2c) Roll call 4. WG status update * MCR still need to help Martin on large pull request. * EBML changes... done. + issue #257, requested one more day to think about it. The changes are fine in general, but want to make sure it precise enough. (MB) * ffv1 has been submitted to IESG by AD. 5. Work on Matroska issues. 48 open issues 21 open pull requests https://github.com/cellar-wg/matroska-specification/issues Next time, Steve will walk us through XSLT code to validate the specification. TAG: "format extension" suggestion that does not have to go into the main spec, because it could be added as separate spec https://github.com/cellar-wg/matroska-specification/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22format+extension%22 "format addition" something that has to go into main specification. https://github.com/cellar-wg/matroska-specification/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22format+addition%22 * As the WebM will not be defined, remove all of the WebM specific stuff. * MCR suggests removing it from the Matroska document, and leave the history for others. * MB: DivX is also not part of Matroska. Also concerned about how the Matroska project presents the WebM/DiVX vs core Matroska elements. The spec will be huge, so take things out. * define how to add unpredictable data to the Matroska, so we could track things that are added. Not just WebM, but also a libmotrsaka as well. * extension data would be on their own lines, and revision history would be clearly. 6. Any other business.