Connection details ------------------ * Date: January 16th, 2019 * Time: 8-9Ana Pacific, 17:00 CET: https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?qm=1&lid=100,5392171,212,6&h=100&date=2019-01-16&sln=16-17 * Webex recording: https://cisco.webex.com/cisco/lsr.php?RCID=dd170ca3dc944d3cad0f2467b9b12efb * Recording password: eFv3B2wx Agenda ------ * [17:05] Administrivia [10min] o Note-Well, Scribes, Agenda Bashing o Status of drafts o IETF 104 * [17:15] SCHC IESG review (Dominique) [10min] * [17:25] WG next steps (chairs) [10min] * [18:00] AOB [ 0min] Todo ---- * Pascal to schedule new meetings starting 16 of Jan. * Pascal to update the milestone for SCHC COAP: November next year * Juan Carlos to check the references Minute takers ------------- * Carles Gomez * Ana Minaburo * Pascal Thubert * Julien Catalano Attendees --------- * Alexander Pelov * Ana Minaburo * Carles Gomez * Edgard Ramos * Ivaylo Petrov * Juan Carlos Zuniga * Julien Catalano * Laurent Toutain * Pascal Thubert * Vincent Audebert Past Attendees --------- * Dominique Barthel Action Items from last time ---------------------------- * WGLC comments addressed * SCHC CoAP to be published by 11/2019, milestones changed * Material of the LoRaWAN webcast published with last interim IETF LPWAN proceedings Agenda ------ * [17:05] Administrivia [10min] o Note-Well, Scribes, Agenda Bashing o Last time todos o Status of drafts o IETF 104 * [17:15] SCHC IESG review (Dominique) [10min] * [17:25] WG next steps (chairs) [10min] * [17:35] Recharter (chairs) [10min] * [18:00] AOB [ 0min] Minutes ------ * [17:05] Administrivia [10min] o Note-Well, Scribes, Agenda Bashing * Happy New Year to all of you * Note Well, disclose if needed any patent or donot discuss about. Procedures .... etc * Minutes takers o Last time todos * PT: 6 new interim meetings starting today until the next IETF meeting * PT: Milestone have been updated for SCHC CoAP * JCZ sent a message to Dominique for references check. * Pascal presents the work in progress, and modifies the CoAP draft date to November as Laurent input o Status of drafts * PT: any questions? [No] * Difficult to find a reviewer for the SCHC draft (from IoT directorate); that review is expected by Jan 18th * Laurent: We need to make a new version of the CoAP draft * PT: Are Lora people publishing a new one? Yvo? * PT: Interested in the work of management and SNMP => later with Yvo o IETF 104 * Pascal requested meeting for IETF 104 early this time. Please check priority (1st: 6lo, roll, rift, 6tish, core, intarea) Is 'suit' and 'ace' important? suit: yes (2), ace: nice to have (1) ToDO: switch ACE and CBOR for the IETF session requirements * See the cut-off date for registration and draft * [17:15] SCHC IESG review (Dominique) [10min] * PT: The SCHC draft follows the process of the IESG * [17:25] WG next steps (chairs) [10min] * PT: in order to publish 'SCHC-over-foo' documents we need to recharter * By IETF cut off we need to have all document refreshed * And the ICMP management draft * PT: We do not have a draft for 802. but a Charlie document on 15.4w (new 802.15.4 amendment for LPWAN) * [17:35] Recharter (chairs) [25min] * During IETF103, we talked about IPv4. Pascal would be happy to see a draft on that. * WI1: CoAP over LPWA network * WI2: generic data models * WI3: SCHC-over-foo: Sigfox, LoRa, NB-IoT, 802.15.4-lpwan (instead of Wi-SUN) * WI4: OAM Ana: Question: SCHC-over-foo, informational or standard track? PT: They will be standard track JCZ: makes more sense to revert WI2 and WI3. Generic data model are somewhat independent. PT: happy to swap. WI4. OAM to the device and work from the ICMPv6 existing drafts - PT would like to have a document with Ping and ICMP with the lpwan to be referenced, by Feb15th - JCZ we need to discuss among authors * PT: does the description of WI4 is as clear as you need? * JCZ: I think you need to change a little bit the last part to focus on ping * AP: Can we say: "Some OAM operation, starting with icmp" ? PT: Do not want to prevent anything which is not 'ping'. JCZ: Right now we identified "ping" and "traceroute" ToDO: For WI4: To enable minimal OAM operation PT: appreciate to have a document for WI4 by updating the existing ICMP draft ToDO: Pascal Publish an early version of the milestones and recharter * [18:00] AOB [ 0min] PT: Happy New Year all PT: Congratulations for the good work done last year and continue this year too. [17:38] Meeting ajourned early.