Bron: welcome people from CalConnect who stayed on from JMAP, you're welcome to stay and participate Regular IETF NoteWell applies There was no Agenda bash. fetch-preview --- fetch preview: should we make it just text and nothing else Barry: would be happy with that Neil: was it dovecot who wanted something else? IMAGE as well? ACTION: Bron to initiate discussion on the list about reverting to a simpler version imap4rev2 --- Alexey: tweaked wording on earlier reported issues. Finally took out mailbox pattern. Open Issues: * use of CLOSED response code to force client to unselect mailbox. * canonical mailbox name. CLOSED response code: Bron: suggest gate it behind IMAP4REV2 Timo: worried that clients will forget to implement it Barry: if it's enabled, then CLOSED should always be used. It's reasonable to expect anybody who does ENABLED IMAP4REV2 to read the spec. Timo: the problem is that this is so rare that clients won't ever have this happen during testing. It should never happen. Alternative is to just disconnect the client. Alexey: so just reserve closed for "if you select when already opened". RESOLVED: if mailbox can't be kept open, the server must drop the connection (same as existing IMAP4rev1 behaviour of some servers) Canonical name: Alexey: Initial proposal was response code, but there's too many restrictions on what's allowed. SUGGESTION: update response-code text in imap4rev2 to allow non-ASCII text (if enabled!) Barry: seems fine. Option - LIST extension or a new CREATED response. RESOLVED: Alexey will propose a list response extension for IMAP4rev2 handling of canonical created name. REMAINING ISSUES: Bron: when do you think we'll be done? Alexey: better is enemy of good. Maybe future revision can deal with some of them! We need to discuss search. Will do in Madrid. Murray: have been reading the whole document. Haven't done IMAP before! Collecting issues. Alexey: please give issues as you find them so I can incorporate them. ACTION: Alexey to review notes and publish another draft of IMAP4rev2 before Madrid. Quota --- Alexey: suggest people read the document and decide whether the OVERQUOTA with tag is useful, or whether we should drop it. Alexey: Bron please review the ANNOTATION-STORAGE item. - Bron, will do. Open Issues: * OVERQUOTA SP tag syntax issue * "If you know STORAGE is supported"... should it be dropped? Does anybody think it's needed? Future Directions: * Interations with IMAP ACL extension. Please let Alexey know if any opinions! Timo: Is it useful to have SETQUOTA? It feels more like a server command rather than something via IMAP. Alexey: yes, you're probably right - but some tools are using it. Should we split it up? Maybe put in a separate section and maybe a different capability. ACTION: Alexey to make SETQUOTA a separate capability in the quota draft. ACTION: All please review the draft sieve-mailboxid --- Recent discussion on the list - need to make sure it works. ACTION: Bron will make changes from Alexey and upload into group. Other business --- Ken: there's a "snooze action" for Sieve at Fastmail - do we want to document that? Alexey: what does it do? Ken: Set up a rule so emails get stored for later delivery. Backend could be server specific. Put into SMTP queue, put into IMAP mailbox and move automatically, etc. Ken: Document just specifies the expected behaviour, not the underlying mechanics. Alexey: I am curious and support seeing it. ACTION: Ken will put together a -00 draft for sieve-snooze. Milestones --- ACTION: Bron, follow up with Stephan about EAI Sieve document. Jul 2020 - Adopt a sieve-snooze document Jul 2020 - Sieve MailboxId Sep 2020 - IMAP4rev2 Dec 2020 - QUOTA