INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the July 16, 2020 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area Martin Duke / F5 Networks Inc / Transport Area Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison Wes Hardaker (USC/ISI) / IAB Liaison Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area Murray Kucherawy / Facebook / Applications and Real-Time Area Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair Barry Leiba (Futurewei Technologies) / Applications and Real-Time Area Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area Robert Wilton / Cisco Systems / Operations and Management Area REGRETS --------------------------------- Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director Erik Kline / Loon LLC / Internet Area Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area OBSERVERS --------------------------------- Greg Wood MINUTES --------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes Approval of the minutes of the July 9, 2020 teleconference was deferred until the next IESG teleconference (August 13, 2020). 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-detnet-ip-07 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-httpbis-header-structure-19 (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions NONE 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: o Roman Danyliw to draft text to be posted on ietf.org about reporting protocol vulnerabilities via an email alias and possible procedures on how to assign triage resources IN PROGRESS: o Martin Vigoureux with Wes, and Alvaro to work on some mechanism to obtain wider or private feedback from people who are disenfranchised; anonymous flagging of offensive emails to inform leadership; more opportunities for private feedback. o Alvaro Retana and Barry Leiba, with Warren Kumari, Alexey Melnikov, Martin Vigoureux, and Roman Danyliw to work on more transparency in the Datatracker about how long each phase of doc process takes / New datatracker flag to indicate who has the ball: area directors, authors, or chairs. o Warren Kumari to work on acknowledging shepherds, directorate reviewers in a more standardized/formal way. o Eric Vyncke to write up draft text on Special Interest Groups and send to the IESG for comment. o Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, and Murray Kucherawy to look at updating the I-D Checklist. o Eric Vyncke (with Suresh Krishnan) to write a draft of an IoT Systems charter. o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text on guidance regarding the number of document authors on documents. o Alvaro Retana, Rob Wilton, Alissa Cooper, and Martin Vigoureux to draft text on the framework for a long-term future plan for the IETF. o Roman Danyliw to draft text for a request to the Tools Team to move BoF requests from the BoF Wiki to the Datatracker. o Alvaro Retana, Warren Kumari, and Barry Leiba to draft clarifying text on Errata Best Practices. o Magnus Westerlund to find designated experts for the RDMA-CM Private Data Identifiers registry (RFC8797) [IANA #1173341]. o Ben Kaduk to find designated experts for RFC 8784 [IANA #1173591]. NEW: NONE 2. Protocol actions 2.1 WG submissions 2.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-09 - IETF stream Integrated Routing and Bridging in EVPN (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 3 Token: Martin Vigoureux The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Benjamin Kaduk, Erik Kline, and Alvaro Retana.* o draft-ietf-lsr-isis-invalid-tlv-02 - IETF stream Invalid TLV Handling in IS-IS (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 3 Token: Alvaro Retana The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once Alvaro Retana confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent. o draft-ietf-ippm-stamp-option-tlv-07 - IETF stream Simple Two-way Active Measurement Protocol Optional Extensions (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 3 Token: Martin Duke The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw, Benjamin Kaduk, Erik Kline, and Murray Kucherawy.* 2.1.2 Returning items o draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane-27 - IETF stream An Autonomic Control Plane (ACP) (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 3 Token: Eric Vyncke The document was deferred to the next teleconference (August 13, 2020) by Barry Leiba. o draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-31 - IETF stream Native NAT Traversal Mode for the Host Identity Protocol (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 3 Token: Eric Vyncke The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Martin Duke and Magnus Westerlund.* o draft-ietf-lpwan-coap-static-context-hc-15 - IETF stream LPWAN Static Context Header Compression (SCHC) for CoAP (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 3 Token: Eric Vyncke The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.* 2.2 Individual submissions 2.2.1 New items NONE 2.2.2 Returning items NONE 2.3 Status changes 2.3.1 New items NONE 2.3.2 Returning items NONE 3. Document actions 3.1 WG submissions 3.1.1 New items NONE 3.1.2 Returning items NONE 3.2 Individual submissions via AD 3.2.1 New items NONE 3.2.2 Returning items NONE 3.3 Status changes 3.3.1 New items NONE 3.3.2 Returning items NONE 3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents 3.4.1 New items NONE 3.4.2 Returning items NONE 4. Working Group actions 4.1 WG creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for approval NONE 4.2 WG rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review o Network File System Version 4 (nfsv4) - 1 of 1 Area: TSV (Magnus Westerlund) The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter. The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (August 13, 2020). 4.2.2 Proposed for approval NONE 5. IAB news we can use 6. Management issues 6.1 [IANA #1172452] Application for a Port Number and/or Service Name "3gpp-w1ap" (IANA) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved registering the Port Number and/or Service Name "3gpp-w1ap." 6.2 [IANA #1174385] Acceptance of media type registration from standards organization ECMA (IANA) The management issue was discussed. The IESG asks IANA to process this media-type request, and to add this organization to the 'Standards- related organizations that have registered Media Types in the Standards Tree.' 6.3 Reporting Protocol Vulnerabilities (Roman Danyliw) The management issue was discussed. 6.4 Page Limit for Back-to-Back Telechats (Barry Leiba) The management issue was discussed. The IESG agreed to reduce the page limit to 175 for the second telechat when two telechats are held in consecutive weeks. 6.5 draft-knodel-terminology (Martin Vigoureux) The management issue was discussed. 7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.) ----------------------------------------------- * Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.