INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the October 28, 2021 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Ben Campbell (Independent Consultant) / IAB Liaison Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison Martin Duke (F5 Networks Inc) / Transport Area Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area Erik Kline (Google) / Internet Area Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area REGRETS --------------------------------- Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area OBSERVERS --------------------------------- Lee-Berkeley Shaw Greg Wood MINUTES --------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the October 21, 2021 Teleconference remain under review. The narrative minutes of the October 21, 2021 Teleconference remain under review. The BoF Coordination Call Minutes for IETF 112 were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved since the October 21, 2021 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-21 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-cbor-network-addresses-13 (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-core-senml-data-ct-07 (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions NONE 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: o Eric Vyncke to follow up with the Tools Team about updating the Last Call template to include a pointer to https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/in-last-call. IN PROGRESS: o John Scudder, Martin Duke, and Robert Wilton to review the document shepherd templates and propose changes to include updated questions, cross-area checks, and an expanded section on the use of YANG models. o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft a note to wgchairs asking them to always confirm author/contributor status. o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text to include in the I-D submission tool warning about too many authors. o Murray Kucherawy to update BCP 97 to provide guidance about handling normative references to non-SDO documents. o Warren Kumari to rewrite the IESG blog post on "Handling IESG ballot positions" as an IESG statement. o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 8739 and RFC 9115 Automated Certificate Management Environment (ACME)) [IANA #1210257]. ON HOLD: o Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to report back to the IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in March 2022. NEW: NONE 2. Protocol actions 2.1 WG submissions 2.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy-14 - IETF stream IGMP and MLD Proxy for EVPN (Proposed Standard) Token: Martin Vigoureux The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, Murray Kucherawy, and Eric Vyncke.* o draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-tcp-requirements-13 - IETF stream DNS Transport over TCP - Operational Requirements (Best Current Practice) Token: Warren Kumari The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Benjamin Kaduk, Lars Eggert, and Roman Danyliw.* 2.1.2 Returning items NONE 2.2 Individual submissions 2.2.1 New items NONE 2.2.2 Returning items NONE 2.3 Status changes 2.3.1 New items NONE 2.3.2 Returning items NONE 3. Document actions 3.1 WG submissions 3.1.1 New items NONE 3.1.2 Returning items NONE 3.2 Individual submissions via AD 3.2.1 New items NONE 3.2.2 Returning items NONE 3.3 Status changes 3.3.1 New items NONE 3.3.2 Returning items NONE 3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents 3.4.1 New items o conflict-review-irtf-cfrg-hpke-00 IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-cfrg-hpke draft-irtf-cfrg-hpke-12 Hybrid Public Key Encryption (IRTF: Informational) Token: Roman Danyliw The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that includes a conflict review response prepared by Roman Danyliw. 3.4.2 Returning items o conflict-review-smyshlyaev-tls12-gost-suites-01 IETF conflict review for draft-smyshlyaev-tls12-gost-suites draft-smyshlyaev-tls12-gost-suites-17 GOST Cipher Suites for Transport Layer Security (TLS) Protocol Version 1.2 (ISE: Informational) Token: Benjamin Kaduk The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response prepared by Benjamin Kaduk. 4. Working Group actions 4.1 WG creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for approval NONE 4.2 WG rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review o Network Time Protocol (ntp) Area: INT (Erik Kline) The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter pending edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Erik Kline. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (December 2, 2021). 4.2.2 Proposed for approval NONE 5. IAB news we can use 6. Management issues 6.1 Impact of COVID-19 on the IETF (Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari) The management issue was discussed. Action item: Management item to be added back to agenda before IETF 113. 6.2 "Newcomer's Agenda" for IETF 112 (Martin Duke) The management issue was discussed. 6.3 Finalization of "important-news" (Lars Eggert) The management issue was discussed. The IESG has approved creating an "important-news" mailing list. 6.4 IESG Representative to ISE Search Committee (Lars Eggert) The management issue was discussed. 7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.) ----------------------------------------------- * Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.