Potential Areas for IETF/IEEE802 Coordination 0. Revision History 0.0 Initial Revision - 9/4/2012 0.1 revised for the period between 9/5 and 10/29 0.2 revised according to input received on 01, still reflects the 9/5-10/29 time interval 0.3 revised after the 10/29/12 meeting 0.4 revised for the period between 10/29 and 12/12 0.5 revised after the 12/17/12 meeting 0.6 revised for the period between 12/17/12 and 2/5/13 0.7 revised for the period between 2/5/13 and 4/30/13 0.8 revised after the 5/2/13 meeting 0.9 revised for the period between 5/2/13 and 9/22/13 0.10 revised after the 9/30 meeting 0.11 revised for the period between 9/30/13 and 1/22/14 0.12 revised after the 1/27/14 meeting 0.13 revised after the 6/18/14 meeting 0.14 revised with updates before the 9/29/14 f2f meeting 0.15 revised for the period between 9/29/14 and 1/20/15 0.16 revised for the period between 1/20/15 and 6/15/15 0.17 revised for the period between 6/16/15 and 8/12/15 0.18 revised for the period between 8/12/15 and 12/15/15 0.19 revised for the period between 12/15/15 and 1/28/16 0.20 revised for the period between 1/28/16 and 6/7/16 0.21 revised for the period between 6/7/16 and 8/15/16 0.22 revised for the period between 8/16/16 and 1/30/17 0.23 revised for the period between 31-Jan-2017 and 10-Apr-2017 0.24 revised for the period between 11-Apr-2017 and 15-Jul-2017 0.25 revised for the period between 16-Jul-2017 and 16-Oct-2017 0.26 revised for the period between 17-Oct-2017 and 29-Mar-2018 0.27 revised for the period between 30-Mar-2018 and 29-Jun-2018 0.28 revised for the period between 30-Jun-2018 and 10-Nov-2018 0.29 revised for the period between 11-Nov-2018 and 10-Mar-2019 0.30 revised for the period between 11-Mar-2019 and 18-Jun-2019 0.31 revised for the period between 19-Jun-2019 and 18-Oct-2019 0.32 revised for the period between 19-Oct-2019 and 25-Feb-2020 0.33 revised for the period between 25-Feb-2020 and 15-Jun-2020 0.34 revised for the period between 16-Jun-2020 and 27-Oct-2020 0.35 revised for the period between 28-Oct-2020 and 17-Feb-2021 0.36 revised for the period between 18-Feb-2021 and 24-Jun-2021 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5. Enabling use of Local Addresses for virtualization and IoT (was: Effect of virtualization on IEEE 802 architecture) 5.1. Description At the 7/25/12 f2f meeting Glenn Parsons presented a brief overview of the IEEE Registration Authority Committee (RAC) mission, highlighting the current RAC policy on virtualization and asking what virtualization policy would reduce the consumption of EUI-48 addresses. Norman Finn suggested this could be an area of collaboration between the IETF and the IEEE 802. Status 4/30/13 - Glenn Parsons submitted an I-D and gave presentations at IETF-86 in the Technical Plenary, OPS and INT area meetings. The IEEE RAC will finalize and approve the proposal by June. 9/9/13: draft-ieee-rac-oui-restructuring-01.txt submitted Status 1/14/14 (Bob Grow): Right now that would just be a RAC document, 7/14/14 - Pat Thaler and Don Pannell gave presentations on regarding concerns about potential global address consumption by IoT devices and feasibil8ity of using local MAC addresses for such devices. Virtual machines usually have a hypervisor with a physical port with a global address to use to acquire a local MAC address for the VM and an orchestration system to provide the address. In contrast, a protocol for IoT devices should work without a global address for the physical port and should allow for operation with or without an address server. http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2014/New-pannell-MAC-Address-Usage-0714-v1.pdf http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2014/new-addresses-thaler-local-address-acquisition-0714-v2.pdf 9/13/14 IEEE 802.1 drafted a PAR for an Amendment to IEEE 802 Overview and Architecture, P802c Local Media Access Control (MAC) Addressing. If the PAR is approved, the amendment will describe using a portion of the address space for protocols assigning local addresses out of a CID block associated with the protocol. A portion of the local address space will continue to be used for assignment by local administrators. Forwarding the PAR will be considered at the November IEEE 802 meeting. IEEE 802.1 is also considering a project to define a protocol for local address claiming (i.e. without an address server) and local address distribution using blocks from the CID space. The protocol would be usable by IoT devices that do not have a global address assignment. November 2014 - IEEE 802.1 approved the formation of the IEEE 802.1 Local Address Study Group (LASG) January 2015 - First meeting of the LASG at the Atlanta IEEE 802.1 Interim. PARs and CSDs for the SG formation and a possible Local Address Assignment Protocol were drafted for discussions. March 2015 - Approval of the P802c project June 2015 - Ralph Droms will monitor this and see if it will be of interest to the IETF. 9/29: working on PAR on protocols for local address acquisition IEEE 802.1CQ - Multicast and Local Address Assignment - approved after the November IEEE 802 Plenary Jan 2016: P802c D0.1 available and discussed at the January 2016 interim June 2016: P802c D0.2 - TF ballot, comment resolution at the May 2016 interim meeting June 2016: initial version of a new PAR proposal for a Link-local Registration Protocol circulated on the WG mail list June 2016: WG ballot for P802c/D1.0 July 2016: submission of rfc7042bis I-D Aug. 2016: second WG ballot for P802c/D1. Dec. 2016: P802c is approved. Jan. 2017: There may be some interest in using DHCP to assign MAC addresses. Jul. 2017: It seems like it would be straightforward to assign MAC addresses with DHCPv4. So far, an author for that has not been found. Oct. 2017: Shooting for an Internet-Draft on using DHCP to assign MAC addresses in November or December. Mar. 2018: draft-bvtm-dhc-mac-assign shared with IEEE 802.1. Mar. 2018: The work within 802.1 has been moved to the OmniRAN task group. May 2018: Bernie Volz to give presentation on using DHCPv6 to assign dynamic MAC address to the 802.1 OmniRAN TG on 21 May 2018. Nov. 2018: draft-ietf-6lo-rfc6775-update is approved; it will be RFC 8505. draft-ietf-6lo-ap-nd-08 is a companion; and it is close to WGLC. It protects the registered addresses against snooping, traffic injection, and attraction, using elliptic curve crypto without a PKI. Nov. 2018: 6LoWPAN (for RFC 6282) needs the MAC and IP addresses aligned for optimal compression. Highly desirable for the Local MAC to be used in the IPv6 address. Apr. 2019: DHC WG adopts draft-ietf-dhc-mac-assign-00. Oct. 2019: DHC WG Last Call for draft-ietf-dhc-mac-assign-01 and draft-ietf-dhc-slap-quadrant-01. Jan. 2020: Successful DHC WG Last Call for draft-ietf-dhc-mac-assign-01. Jun. 2020: Desire to make sure the MAC addresses come from a pool assigned to the company operating the service. Authors seem agreeable. Oct. 2020: TG Letter Ballot on IEEE 802.1CQ is leading to significant technical changes as part of comment resolution. Nov. 2020: PAR for 802.11bh approved for "Enhanced service with randomized MAC addresses". It may define new mechanisms for identifiers, given MAC address randomization, without decreasing user privacy. Nov. 2020: PAR for 802.11bi approved for "Enhanced service with Data Privacy Protection". It will specify new mechanisms to improve user privacy for the 802.11 MAC specification. Nov. 2020: draft-ietf-6lo-ap-nd has been published as RFC 8928. Dec. 2020: draft-ietf-dhc-mac-assign has been published as RFC 8947. Jun. 2021: Expect Task Force letter ballot for IEEE 802.1CQ in July 2021. 5.2. Relevant Documents http://www.iab.org/2012/12/13/proposed-ieee-registration-authority-committee-oui-tier-restructuring/ http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/slides/slides-86-iab-techplenary-5.pdf https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ieee-rac-oui-restructuring/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-eastlake-rfc7042bis/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/detnet https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8505.txt https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8558.txt https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8928.txt https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8929.txt https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8947.txt http://standards.ieee.org/develop/regauth/tut/eui.pdf http://www.ieee802.org/1/pages/802c.html http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2015/dcb-thaler-1CQ-csd-local-address-prot-1015-v0.pdf http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/802-c-drafts/d0/802c-d0-2.zip https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/18/omniran-18-0044-00-CQ00-link-layer-addresses-assignment-mechanism-for-dhcpv6.pptx https://1.ieee802.org/dcb/p802-1cq-multicast-and-local-address-assignment/ 5.3. Owners - Glenn Parsons, Max Riegel, Roger Marks, Suresh Krishnan 5.4. Action Items - Coordinate IEEE 802.1CQ when it becomes stable ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 25. Layer 2/Layer 3 Interaction for Time-Sensitive Traffic 25.1. Description The Deterministic Networking (DetNet) Working Group focuses on deterministic data paths that operate over Layer 2 bridged and Layer 3 routed segments, where such paths can provide bounds on latency, loss, and packet delay variation (jitter), and high reliability. The Working Group addresses Layer 3 aspects in support of applications requiring deterministic networking. The Working Group collaborates with IEEE802.1 Time Sensitive Networking (TSN), which is responsible for Layer 2 operations, to define a common architecture for both Layer 2 and Layer 3. Example applications for deterministic networks include professional and home audio/video, multimedia in transportation, engine control systems, and other general industrial and vehicular applications being considered by the IEEE 802.1 TSN Task Group. - July 2015: BoF held at IETF 93. Chartering decision now with the IESG - September 2015: DetNet WG chartered - 6TiSCH is establishing requirements for detnet: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thubert-6tisch-4detnet-01 - November 2015: Detnet WG hold its first meeting at IETF 94 - January 2016: use case I-D adopted as WG document, data plane I-D in preparation - April 2016: Problem statement I-D adopted as WG item - August 2016: draft-finn-detnet-architecture and draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt candidates for WG adoption - Jan. 2017 - Jouni Korhonen reported that the design team hopes to have a first cut of the data plane draft available within the next couple of weeks. - Jul. 2017 - a bunch of documents have been approved or published in IEEE 802 over the past few months, including many extensions to the IEEE 802.1Q bridging specification. - Oct. 2017 - 802.1 is working on data plane and control plane, but DetNet is only working on data plane (recharter needed work on control plane) - Jun. 2018 - David Black has been assigned as the transport advisor to the IETF DetNet WG. - Jun. 2018 - draft-ietf-detnet-problem-statement finished WG Last Call. - Nov. 2018 - IETF Last Call has finished for: -- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases/ -- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-problem-statement/ -- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-architecture/ The Last Call comments are being resolved. - Nov.2018 - Progress on reservation related documents in 802.1 WG: -- 802.1CS, Link-local Registration Protocol, is in TG ballot -- 802.1Qdd, Resource Allocation Protocol, has an approved PAR -- 802.1DC, Quality of Service Provision by Network Systems, describes the QoS solutions specified in 802.1Q, is in TG ballot -- 802.1CBdb, FRER Extended Stream Identification Functions -- 802.1CB specifies reliability that is also used in DetNet -- 802.1Qcr, Bridges and Bridged Networks Amendment: Asynchronous Traffic Shaping, a new solution to bounded low latency without time synchronization, is in WG ballot. - Nov. 2018: Joint workshop in Bangkok on 10 Nov 2018. - Feb. 2019: draft-ietf-detnet-architecture has finished IETF Last Call. Send comments to Deborah now if still have comments. IESG Evaluation is underway. - May 2019: draft-ietf-detnet-architecture in RFC Editor queue. - Oct. 2019: draft-ietf-detnet-data-plane-framework-02 in WG Last Call. - Jan. 2020: IEEE Std 802.1AS-2020 has been published, which includes the generalized Precision Time Protocol (gPTP) profile of the IEEE Std 1588-2019 Precision Time Protocol. - Jan. 2020: IEEE Std 802.1AX-2020 Link Aggregation has been published. - Jun. 2020: draft-ietf-detnet-data-plane-framework is approved for publication. - Jun. 2020: draft-ietf-detnet-ip is under IESG review; scheduled for telechat 25 June 2020. - Jul. 2020: IETF DetNet was rechartered in include controller plane. - Aug. 2020: IEEE Std 802.1CMde-2020 TSN for Fronthaul amendment has been published to extend the base standard with enhancements to fronthaul profiles, add support for a new fronthaul interface, and new synchronization, and syntonization standards. - Oct. 2020: IEEE Std 802.1Qcr-2020 Asynchronous Traffic Shaping (ATS) has been published. This amendment specifies synchronous traffic shaping over full-duplex links with constant data rates. - Feb. 2021: With the RFC Editor; expect to be published soon: -- draft-ietf-detnet-flow-information-model -- draft-ietf-detnet-ip-over-mpls -- draft-ietf-detnet-mpls-over-udp-ip - Feb. 2021: With IESG for final review and approval: -- draft-ietf-detnet-ip-over-tsn -- draft-ietf-detnet-mpls-over-tsn -- draft-ietf-detnet-tsn-vpn-over-mpls -- draft-ietf-detnet-security - Feb. 2021: draft-ietf-detnet-bounded-latency is in WG Last Call. - Feb. 2021: The new P802.1DP project has been just started to specify TSN profiles for aerospace onboard Ethernet networks. - Feb 2021: IEEE SA ballot is about start on the P802.1Qcz Congestion Isolation project. - Jun. 2021: P802.1Qcz is stalled behind the update of the base P802.1Q. 25.2. Relevant Documents - https://1.ieee802.org/tsn/ - https://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2021/admin-tsn-summary-0221-v01.pdf - https://1.ieee802.org/tsn/802-1asdm/ - https://1.ieee802.org/tsn/802-1asdn/ - https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/detnet - http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/detnet/charter/ - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-use-cases/ -- RFC 8557 - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-problem-statement/ -- RFC 8578 - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-architecture/ -- RFC 8655 - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-data-plane-framework/ -- RFC 8938 - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-ip/ -- RFC 8939 - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-mpls/ -- RFC 8964 - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-flow-information-model/ -- RFC 9016 - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-ip-over-tsn/ -- RFC 9023 - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-tsn-vpn-over-mpls/ -- RFC 9024 - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-mpls-over-udp-ip/ -- RFC 9025 - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-ip-oam/ - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-ip-over-mpls/ - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-security/ - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-detnet-yang/ 25.3. Owners - John Scudder, Norm Finn, Janos Farkas 25.4. Action Items - Ensure that relevant documents are circulated between IEEE 802.1 and DetNet at balloting and Last Call milestones ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27. Development of YANG models in the IEEE 802 27.1. Description - Following the IESG statement in 2014 and the IETF YANG tutorial at the July 2014 IEEE 802 plenary, the IEEE 802.1 started to discuss the introduction of YANG modules, which may result soon in a IEEE 802.1 project. Other IEEE 802 WGs may follow the same path. The IETF and IEEE will work to support the formation of YANG expertise in the IEEE 802. - June 2015: PAR and CSD proposals for two projects were submitted: 802.1Qcl Amendment, YANG Data Model (for IEEE 802.1Q); and 802.1Xck Amendment, YANG Data Model (for IEEE 802.1X) - July 2015: PAR and CSD approved by EC, sent to NesComm - July 2015: use of GitHub for all YANG modules (including IEEE 802) discussed by Glenn Parsons with Benoit Claise and YANG doctors at IETF 93; Glenn also discussed the authoring of an I-D (RFC to be) to request URN space for the IEEE as per RFC 3406 - IETF draft for IEEE URN, by Mahesh - September 2015: Two projects approved in IEEE 802.1: 802.1Qcp - Bridges and Bridged Networks Amendment: YANG Data Model, and 802.1Xck - Port-Based Network Access Control Amendment: YANG Data Model - November 2015: Design Team in place for design of YANG modules for IEEE 802.3 - January 2016: considering a CFI at March 2016 plenary in Macau, but the actual work in developing YANG code has already been started as DT - the main problem right now is the lack of review and feedback - March 2016: study group formed for YANG modules in IEEE 802.3 - March, May 2016: new drafts for YANG modules in IEEE 802.1, P802.3Qcp in TG ballot - March, May 2016: issue with VLAN modelling in IEEE YANG models in netmod WG; teleconference and face2face discussions at May interim - liaison sent by the IETF OPS AD to IEEE 802.1, discussed at the IEEE 802.1 Plenary - January 2017: Robert Wilton updated the group on the 802.3 Ethernet Interface YANG Task Force (802.3cf) and RMON MIB (RFC 3635). The slides are available at . Robert Wilton asked if there are concerns about the current approach. The group suggested that he checks with Benoit Claise and the chairs of the NETMOD and CCAMP WGs to for additional feedback. - March 2017: At the Hackathon a tool was produced for the YANG model catalog. The tool shows the dependencies among modules and keeps the metadata. Benoit expressed concern that too many YANG models are proprietary. Yan Zhuang volunteered to help with for 802.3 YANG modules. Still need volunteer for 802.1. - May 2017: Thanks to Marc Holness, all IEEE 802.1 YANG modules validate correctly. The IEEE 802 YANG modules are now in the YANG catalog . - Jun. 2017: Some YANG data models associated with IEEE 802 PAR have errors. See http://www.claise.be/IEEEStandardYANGPageCompilation.html - Oct. 2017: IEEE 802 created YANGsters mail list. - Oct. 2017: There is a desire for a YANG module for EtherTypes, but the IEEE RAC considers this to be standards work, so it belongs in IEEE 802.1. - Oct. 2017: Please see Network Management Datastore Architecture (NMDA), draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores - Nov. 2017: A short presentation on YANG EtherType module: http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/yang-mholness-YANG-ethertype-1117-v01.pdf - Jan. 2018: IESG approved draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores - Feb. 2018: IEEE RAC would like suggestions about the best way to handle friendly EtherType names in a YANG module - Jun. 2018: YANG modules for 802.1Q have been approved as 802-1Qcp. - Nov. 2018: Operations for yangcatalog.org will transition to the IETF Secretariat in early 2019 - Nov. 2018: IETF is considering a change to the NetMod module. The goal is to simplify the interface, but they want to make sure that the changes will not break any other activities. Please check. - Nov. 2018: YANG projects in 802.1 WG: -- 802.1Qcw: YANG Data Models for Scheduled Traffic, Frame Preemption, and Per-Stream Filtering and Policing; in TG ballot -- 802.1Qcx: YANG Data Model for Connectivity Fault Management; in WG ballot -- 802.1ABcu: LLDP YANG Data Model; now have Editor's draft -- 802.1CBcv: FRER YANG Data Model and Management Information Base Module; PAR approved, no draft yet - Feb. 2019: Format of IEEE YANG module repository is now aligned with the one used by IETF. - Jun. 2019: Identified the missing metadata; should be gathered by July 2019 and added to the yangcatalog.org before IETF 105. - Oct. 2019: A PAR has been developed for IEEE 802f that will specify a procedure to generate YANG modules that contain the full EtherType information, including a compact human-readable name, found in the IEEE Registration Authority EtherType public listing. - Feb. 2020: IEEE 802f PAR was approved, and work has started. - Jun. 2020: IEEE 802 YANG modules and IETF YANG modules are using different string formats to represent MAC Addresses; need to figure out a why forward that will allow exact match string comparison. - Jul. 2020: draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l2-network-topology is now with the IESG; some specific questions were asked of IEEE 802.1 for coordination. - Jul. 2020: IEEE Std 802.1Qcx-2020 YANG for Connectivity Fault Management (CFM) has been published. - Aug. 2020: Comments on draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l2-network-topology were provided by IEEE YANGsters: -- Initial Review: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/i2rs/NtnhmhouhLbSv6nU2xX_wFw0to8/ -- Response: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/i2rs/KC_HtT0F0o-be7izK0VCgSo1oWk/ -- Further Reply: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/i2rs/YJC9pbOXmmWe82N2G5HnDSXQBWE/ - Oct. 2020: Metadata for all IEEE 802 YANG modules has been entered at yangcatalog.org - Feb. 2021: The YANG projects for LLDP (P802.1ABcu), FRER (P802.1CBcv), and an initial set of TSN features (P802.1Qcw) are at WG ballot. - Feb. 2021: The P802f project to specify YANG data model for EtherTypes including compact and human-readable names is at TG ballot. - Apr. 2021: IEEE SA letter ballot group is forming for P802.1ABcu. - Jun. 2021: IEEE SA letter ballot group for P802.1ABcu in underway. - Jun. 2021: Expect P802.1ABcv and P802.1ABcw to move to IEEE SA letter ballot after the July 2021 plenary meeting. - Jun. 2021: Expect WG letter ballot for Ethertype YANG document after the July 2021 plenary meeting. 27.2. Relevant Documents Coordination group for IEEE YANG: - web page: https://1.ieee802.org/yangsters/ - mail list: https://1.ieee802.org/yangsters/yangsters-mail-list-information/ - mail list: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?A0=stds-802-3-yang http://www.ieee802.org/802_tutorials/2014-07/Tutorial_Berman_1407.pdf http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2015/new-802-mahesh-yang-0115-v01.pdf http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2015/cl-draft-1Q-YANG-par-0615-v02.pdf http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2015/cl-draft-Qcl-csd-0615-v1.docx http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2015/ck-draft-1X-YANG-par-0615-v02.pdf http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2015/ck-draft-Xck-csd-0615-v1.docx https://mentor.ieee.org/802.15/dcn/15/15-15-0324-00-0000-p802-15-3-revision-par-detail-draft.pdf https://mentor.ieee.org/802.15/dcn/15/15-15-0332-00-0000-15-3r1-draft-csd.docx http://www.ieee802.org/1/pages/802.1cp.html http://www.ieee802.org/1/pages/802.1ck.html https://github.com/8023YangDesignTeam/EthernetYang https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wilton-netmod-intf-vlan-yang/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-intf-ext-yang/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l2-network-topology/ http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/cp-drafts/d2/802-1Qcp-d2-2.pdf http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/ck-drafts/d1/802-1Xck-d1-0.pdf https://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2013/01/wilton_8023cf_ethernet_interface_statistics.pdf http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/802f-draft-PAR-0919-v01.pdf 27.3. Owners - Rob Wilton, Scott Mansfield 27.4. Action Items - Desire for IEEE802.1AX YANG model; currently no project to work on it - Common string formats to represent MAC Addresses in YANG modules ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 33. Capability Discovery 33.1. Description IETF LSVR is developing Layer 3 Discovery and Liveness (L3DL), and IEEE 802.1 is talking about version 2 of the Link Layer Discovery Protocol (LLDPv2). The protocols are aimed at similar needs. - Jun. 2019: 802.1ABdh (Support for Multiframe Protocol Data Units) PAR should be approved in July 2019 at the plenary meeting - Feb. 2020: PAR is approved, but an editor has not been identified. - Jun. 2020: draft-ietf-lsvr-l3dl is in WG Last Call, but it will not be forwarded to the IESG until the draft-ietf-lsvr-l3dl-signing document is ready too. - Oct. 2020: TG Letter Ballot just closed on LLDPv2, and comment resolution to begin in Nov. 2020. - Dec. 2020: The IEEE 802.1CS-2020 Link-local Registration Protocol (LRP) specification is approved. - Feb. 2021: P802.1CBdb is at WG ballot, which specifies extended stream identification functions. - Feb. 2021: P802.1ABdh is at WG ballot, which specifies support for multi-frame LLDPDUs. - Feb. 2021: P802.1Qdd is at TG ballot. The Resource Allocation Protocol (RAP) project specifies the first application of 802.1CS LRP for distributed resource reservation. - Feb. 2021: P802.1Qdj is at TG ballot; it covers Configuration Enhancements for Time-Sensitive Networking. - Feb. 2021: P802.1CQ is at TG ballot; it specifies locally-unique assignment of 48-bit and 64-bit addresses in IEEE 802 networks. - Feb 2021: P802.1Qcj (auto-attach) is at WG ballot. - Feb. 2021: draft-ietf-lsvr-l3dl and draft-ietf-lsvr-l3dl-signing are in LSVR WG Last Call. - Feb 2021: IEEE 802.1 is adding "Support for Multiframe Protocol Data Units" to LLDP. (See https://1.ieee802.org/tsn/802-1abdh/) - Jun. 2021: IEEE SA letter ballot group for LLDPv2. 33.2. Relevant Documents - Mail list: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsvr - Mail archive: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/lsvr - https://1.ieee802.org/tsn/802-1abdh/ - http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/new-congdon-lldpv2-consideration-0119-v01.pdf - http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/dh-draft-PAR-0519-v01.pdf - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsvr-l3dl - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsvr-l3dl-signing 33.3. Owners - Alvaro Retana, Janos Farkas 33.4. Action Items Keep LSVR and IEEE 802.1 TSN TG informed of progress, changes, etc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 34. Reliable and Available Wireless (RAW) 34.1. Description RAW provides for high reliability and availability for IP connectivity over a wireless medium. The wireless medium presents challenges to achieve deterministic properties such as low packet error rate, bounded consecutive losses, and bounded latency. RAW extends the DetNet WG concepts to provide for high reliability and availability for an IP network utilizing scheduled wireless segments and other media, such as IEEE Std. 802.15.4 timeslotted channel hopping (TSCH), 3GPP 5G ultra-reliable low latency communications (URLLC), IEEE 802.11ax/be, and LDACS. RAW will stay abstract to the radio layers underneath, addressing the Layer 3 aspects in support of applications requiring high reliability and availability. - Feb. 2020: IETF RAW WG Chartered. - Jun. 2021: draft-ietf-raw-ldacs passed to IESG by RAW WG. 34.2. Relevant Documents - https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/raw/about/ - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-raw-technologies/ - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-raw-use-cases/ - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-raw-ldacs/ 34.3. Owners - John Scudder, Dorothy Stanley 34.4. Action Items This work is just getting started, but it is clearly of interest to IETF and IEEE 802 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 35. MAC Address Device Identification for Network and Application Services (MADINAS) 35.1. Description The IETF MADINAS Working Group will examine the effect of Randomized and Changing MAC addresses (RCM) schemes on network and application services in several scenarios identified as relevant. The MADINAS WG will also evaluate various identifiers (beyond the MAC address) that can be used by the network to provide services, as well as scenarios where personal device identity is not required. For scenarios where personal device identity stability is desirable, the MADINAS WG will recommend protocols that can be used to protect the request and exchange of identifiers between the client and the service provider. For scenarios where privacy is paramount, the MADINAS WG will recommend best practices to ensure that the privacy achieved with RCM is not compromised by the communication of other identifiers. The MADINAS WG will examine other IETF work that may be applicable. 35.2. Relevant Documents - Mailing List: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/Madinas - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-henry-madinas-framework - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zuniga-mac-address-randomization 35.3. Owners - Eric Vyncke, Glenn Parsons, Dorothy Stanley 35.4. Action Items This work is just getting started, but it is clearly of interest to both IETF and IEEE 802 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- NEXT POTENTIAL AREAS FOR IETF/IEEE802 COORDINATION ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 36. Area Name 36.1. Description 36.2. Relevant Documents 36.3. Owners 36.4. Action Items ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- CLOSED POTENTIAL AREAS FOR IETF/IEEE802 COORDINATION ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. IETF TRILL Fine-grained labeling and IEEE 802.1 tags -- CLOSED ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. IETF BFD and IEEE 802.1AX -- CLOSED Documents: - https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7130.txt ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. IETF NVO3 and IEEE 802.1 DCB -- CLOSED Documents: - IEEE 802.1Qcy was published on 4 June 2019 -- https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8728296 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. IETF awareness of IEEE 802.1Q-2011 -- CLOSED ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. IETF EMU and IEEE 802.1X, 802.11 and 802.16 security based on EAP -- CLOSED ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. IETF Ethernet MIB, ADSL MIB and IEEE 802.3 -- CLOSED Documents: - https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7124.txt - https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7448.txt ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8. IETF 6LOWPAN and IEEE 802.15 -- CLOSED ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9. IETF PAWS WG and 802.11, 802.19, 802.22 -- CLOSED Documents: - https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7545.txt ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10. IETF IPPM and LMAP, and IEEE 802.16 Metrology Study Group -- CLOSED ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 11. IETF and IEEE 802.1 OmniRAN TG -- CLOSED Documents: - https://standards.ieee.org/content/ieee-standards/en/standard/802_1CF-2019.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12. IETF HOKEY and IEEE 802.21 -- CLOSED ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 13. IETF MIF and IEEE 802.21 -- CLOSED ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14. IETF IPFIX Information Elements for Data Link monitoring -- CLOSED Documents: - https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7133.txt ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15. IETF RADIUS attributes for IEEE 802 networks -- CLOSED Documents: - https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7268.txt ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16. IEEE802.1Q SRP (and Gen2 updates) and RSVP/SIP -- CLOSED ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 17. IEEE 802.1AS/1588 and NTP -- CLOSED ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 18. 802.1AS/1588, 802.1Q time aware shaper(s) and RTP -- CLOSED ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19. Common OAM proposal / Layer Independent OAM -- CLOSED Documents: - https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6905.txt - https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7174.txt - https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7455.txt - https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7784.txt ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 20. Area Name - use of TRILL as an alternative path selection protocol for use in 802.11 mesh networks -- CLOSED ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 21. 6tisch -- CLOSED Documents (all Internet-Drafts are in RFC Editor queue at time of closing): - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6tisch-architecture/ - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6tisch-enrollment-enhanced-beacon/ - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6tisch-minimal-security/ - https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6tisch-msf/ - https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7554.txt - https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8180.txt - https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8480.txt ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22. CAPWAP extensions in OPSAWG -- CLOSED Documents: - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-extension - expired - http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7494.txt - http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8350.txt ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 23. Area Name - naming in layer 2 networks -- CLOSED ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 24. Coordination between the IETF and IEEE 802 on Pervasive Monitoring -- CLOSED Documents: https://standards.ieee.org/standard/802E-2020.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 26. Area Name - IS-IS extensions for IEEE 802.1Qca - CLOSED ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 28. Area Name - Multicast on IEEE 802 wireless networks -- CLOSED Tutorial materials used at IETF 97 are available at: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5nskJAV00I&list=PLC86T-6ZTP5gtLuoSjpTGO_mS5Ly2pfIS&index=128 - https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/97/slides/slides-97-edu-80215-projects-summary-overview-00.pptx - https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/97/slides/slides-97-edu-sessg-ieee-802-wireless-tutorial-00.ppt ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 29. Area Name - Opportunistic Wireless Encryption (OWE) -- CLOSED Documents: - https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8110.txt - https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1486/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 30. Intelligent Transportation Systems (ITS) -- CLOSED Documents: - https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8691.txt ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 31. LPWAN -- CLOSED Documents: - https://standards.ieee.org/standard/802_15_4w-2020.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 32. Source Address Validation for Wireless LAN -- CLOSED Documents: - https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8928.txt -------------------------------------------------------------------------